PS3 sales

22psi · Dec 13, 2006

london-boy said:
Love this website, even though the numbers are never 100% accurate, they're close enough and i love their graphs!

(yes, i love their graphs... i think graphs are vastly underrated)

What about http://nexgenwars.com/ ?

ban25 · Dec 13, 2006

eDoshin said:
Oh Yeah!!! I scored a 60 Gig PS3 at the Playstation store. Looks like they had a big shipment cuz they handed out a lot of stickers and the line was fairly long. Didnt expect that many people with the rain. I would have preferred to buy the console at Best Buy so that I can rack up some rewards point, but I'm not gonna take a chance.

This was today? In SF? *Damn*

Slay · Dec 13, 2006

22psi said:
What about http://nexgenwars.com/ ?

a joke, and a bad one too.

as for VGcharts , it uses some real data (NPD, Media Create) and some estimations that IMO are way off.

Cobra101 · Dec 13, 2006

Slay said:
a joke, and a bad one too.

as for VGcharts , it uses some real data (NPD, Media Create) and some estimations that IMO are way off.

I think the 360 numbers are too high in the NExtgenwars chart.

It might be closer to where MS will finish the entire year.

But Nov. was not extremely good for MS.

And one must wonder how many 360's were sold because of Wii and PS3 shortages as well.

MS will probably a fair bit of Dec. sales just because of this, not because it was the 1st system of choice.

pipo · Dec 13, 2006

Cobra101 said:
And one must wonder how many 360's were sold because of Wii and PS3 shortages as well.

MS will probably a fair bit of Dec. sales just because of this, not because it was the 1st system of choice.

Which is completely irrelevant from their point of view.

The shortages of other systems were a given when they came up with that 10M number anyway.

Fu3lFr3nzy · Dec 13, 2006

Cobra101 said:
But Nov. was not extremely good for MS.

Youre kidding right? :???:

Gears of War and Black Friday deals werent good(console sales-wise)? amagawd!

Johnny Awesome · Dec 13, 2006

Yes. That's a load of nonsense. MS had a pretty good November, considering the data only goes to the 25th.

Gubbi · Dec 13, 2006

I agree. GOW is a console selling monster.

I've had three different people (out of three) going "I need this" after trying out co-op GOW at my place. They'll probably pick one up in january in the traditional sales season.

cheers

22psi · Dec 13, 2006

511k in Nov consoles sold is great for a system that costs 300-400 dollars.

scooby_dooby · Dec 13, 2006

Slay said:
a joke, and a bad one too.

as for VGcharts , it uses some real data (NPD, Media Create) and some estimations that IMO are way off.

Just because it doesn't list sources? What about the fact that it's consistently right on the mark? Whoever is running that site is definately keeping it updated with the best estimates around.

Both PS3 and Wii sales were accurately reflected, long before the 200k number was confirmed for PS3. 360 seems right to me as well if you take NPD, extrapolate from that and add WW sales.

mckmas8808 · Dec 13, 2006

scooby_dooby said:
Just because it doesn't list sources? What about the fact that it's consistently right on the mark? Whoever is running that site is definately keeping it updated with the best estimates around.

Both PS3 and Wii sales were accurately reflected, long before the 200k number was confirmed for PS3. 360 seems right to me as well if you take NPD, extrapolate from that and add WW sales.

GAF is more accurate than them, but it's close enough.

22psi · Dec 13, 2006

Hurry! Costco.com has the PS3 bundle!
http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11186475&whse=BC&topnav=&browse=

scooby_dooby · Dec 13, 2006

mckmas8808 said:
GAF is more accurate than them, but it's close enough.

All you get on GAF is a ton of people throwing out numbers with usually no sources, and half of em quote NPD #'s like they are exact totals.

Slay · Dec 13, 2006

scooby_dooby said:
All you get on GAF is a ton of people throwing out numbers with usually no sources, and half of em quote NPD #'s like they are exact totals.

NPD is the best we can get, the whole industry quote their numbers, but hey i forgot, VGcharts "secert sources" may be more accurate, i prefer the 80% real sales data plus 20% NPD estimations (the NPD numbers in other words) than the numbers from VGcharts, or even worse from nexgenwars.

dobwal · Dec 13, 2006

Looking at VG charts numbers, I say their Japan and US numbers are probably fairly accurate. But I believe its European and rest of the world numbers have a great deal of variance and larger margin of error, which ultimately affects its worldwide numbers. I say this because the amount of available public data for Europe and the rest of the world is not as consistent nor as abundant as the data available for Japan and USA.

Other, than actual shipping numbers released by MS, Nintendo and Sony, I would find VG just as reliable as any other single source, simply for the fact that VG includes the most respected tracking numbers and its extrapolated numbers don't vary that much from the tracking data used to make that extrapolation.

scooby_dooby · Dec 13, 2006

Slay said:
NPD is the best we can get, the whole industry quote their numbers, but hey i forgot, VGcharts "secert sources" may be more accurate, i prefer the 80% real sales data plus 20% NPD estimations (the NPD numbers in other words) than the numbers from VGcharts, or even worse from nexgenwars.

The whole industry quotes their number to analyze trends not total sales. Historically NPD has under reported total sales, when compared to the manufacturers totals, so I'm not sure why you would think it's totally accurate now.

Slay · Dec 13, 2006

scooby_dooby said:
The whole industry quotes their number to analyze trends not total sales. Historically NPD has under reported total sales, when compared to the manufacturers totals, so I'm not sure why you would think it's totally accurate now.

ok i'll quote myself with proper bolding to make ti easier

NPD is the best we can get, the whole industry quote their numbers, but hey i forgot, VGcharts "secert sources" may be more accurate, i prefer the 80% real sales data plus 20% NPD estimations (the NPD numbers in other words) than the numbers from VGcharts, or even worse from nexgenwars.

does that clears it up a bit now?

scooby_dooby · Dec 13, 2006

Slay said:
does that clears it up a bit now?

It's clear that you completely missed the point.

Sis · Dec 13, 2006

Slay said:
NPD is the best we can get, the whole industry quote their numbers, but hey i forgot, VGcharts "secert sources" may be more accurate, i prefer the 80% real sales data plus 20% NPD estimations (the NPD numbers in other words) than the numbers from VGcharts, or even worse from nexgenwars.

NPD does not track and estimate 100% of retailers in the US--that's the crux of the argument. I think Laa Yosh has broken it down the best, but there is some padding between what a manufacture ships, what a retailer sales, and what NPD reports. Treating what NPD reports as if it's the whole picture is incorrect, unless you are using it solely for trending purposes.

Graham · Dec 14, 2006

*sigh*

it just gets more ridiculous.

So now apparently sony are 'on track' to ship 2 million systems world wide by the end of the calendar year.
Sure....

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=21701

"I don't think we need to revise our shipment targets... 2 million and 6 million are within our reach.''

PS3 sales

22psi

ban25

Slay

Cobra101

pipo

Fu3lFr3nzy

Johnny Awesome

Gubbi

22psi

scooby_dooby

mckmas8808

22psi

scooby_dooby

Slay

dobwal

scooby_dooby

Slay

scooby_dooby

Sis

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Graham

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