PS3 sales

More specifically on a monthly basis in the US?

Ahhh...

Hmmm, good question. Both 'when' and 'who' are hard to guess at, although if I had to take a random stab, I'd say it'll either be the 360 in 08, or the Wii in late 07. I am sort of undecided on whether I believe the Wii will 'flame out' this gen or not - and not that I don't love Nintendo's boldness either mind you.
 
the thing is NO console not even PS3 is going to do PS2 numbers on a monthly basis at $400, $500 or $600.

not gonna happen.

BOTH systems will need price drops galore to do the big numbers... they all know that. Wii has the best chance short term IMO. 360 is poised to lower their price significantly in the coming years as that was the main theme of their engineering and contracts going into this gen.

anyone that thinks PS3 will be doing bigger numbers next November than 360 did this year (at the current or even $100 less) are kidding themselves.

The largest number of buyers are not in this price market. Period. I don't care who's name is on the box. ;)
 
Ahhh...

Hmmm, good question. Both 'when' and 'who' are hard to guess at, although if I had to take a random stab, I'd say it'll either be the 360 in 08, or the Wii in late 07. I am sort of undecided on whether I believe the Wii will 'flame out' this gen or not - and not that I don't love Nintendo's boldness either mind you.

Would it be too far fetch to say that would be the sweet spot of crossing over to mass market appeal.
 
Would it be too far fetch to say that would be the sweet spot of crossing over to mass market appeal.

I think it's the very definition. When one console surpasses the former 'king' of the mass market, it's got to be the new king...

(PS - That's not to say I'm ruling PS3 out for the throne ultimately either, just that I do think one of the others will enjoy a reign before PS3 were it to get there)
 
the thing is NO console not even PS3 is going to do PS2 numbers on a monthly basis at $400, $500 or $600.

not gonna happen.

BOTH systems will need price drops galore to do the big numbers... they all know that. Wii has the best chance short term IMO. 360 is poised to lower their price significantly in the coming years as that was the main theme of their engineering and contracts going into this gen.

anyone that thinks PS3 will be doing bigger numbers next November than 360 did this year (at the current or even $100 less) are kidding themselves.

The largest number of buyers are not in this price market. Period. I don't care who's name is on the box. ;)

Question would be has there been a CE device at those price point selling big numbers?
 
Question would be has there been a CE device at those price point selling big numbers?

Different CE devices hold different values to the mainstream consumer. A videgogame system doesn't hold as much as alot of other things, it's regarded by many as a toy.
 
I was trolling on a forum full of fan-boys (sorry but it's just funny sometime...)
And i've made a horrible calculation.... for the fun first but the figure had hit me in the face :8O:

I consider 350.000 ps3 out now, sony seems to produce 80.000 units a week (for japan&us)
they 're 15 weeks until end of march.
1.2 millions units until march
So in march there will be ~1.500.000 out :8O:
horror!!!

Sony seem able to produce~300.000 units/month, the improvement in diode yelds has to be impressive to match the demand anytime soon...
Positive side the demand seems awesome.
 
I was trolling on a forum full of fan-boys (sorry but it's just funny sometime...)
And i've made a horrible calculation.... for the fun first but the figure had hit me in the face :8O:

I consider 350.000 ps3 out now, sony seems to produce 80.000 units a week (for japan&us)
they 're 15 weeks until end of march.
1.2 millions units until march
So in march there will be ~1.500.000 out :8O:
horror!!!

Sony seem able to produce~300.000 units/month, the improvement in diode yelds has to be impressive to match the demand anytime soon...
Positive side the demand seems awesome.

That's only if Sony isn't able to ramp up production... which it hopefully can, but who knows at this point -- I'd be surprised if they weren't able to increase monthly production quite a bit (like upwards of 600-800k a month) by march... of course, they still won't meet their 6m by quarters end goal.
 
That's only if Sony isn't able to ramp up production... which it hopefully can, but who knows at this point -- I'd be surprised if they weren't able to increase monthly production quite a bit (like upwards of 600-800k a month) by march... of course, they still won't meet their 6m by quarters end goal.

Was'nt a new fab suppose to start manufactoring PS3 in the new year...Foxconn Electronics ?
 
still won't meet their 6m by quarters end goal.

that goal was stated in Spring 06. pretty sure that goal was downwardly adjusted severely in the last couple of months.

THIS report does not sound real hopeful.


Sony is aiming to ship 2 million PlayStation 3 consoles worldwide this year.
Until inventory constraints are resolved, ``we won't really know what the true performance of the system will be,'' Frazier said
even 2 mil by end of 06 sounds way too high considering 280,000 were at launch WW.
 
600k/month would be 1/2 what they'd previously said they were aiming for capacity-wise, but is apparently roughly twice what they were able to do prior to launch.

It's still a bit early, but I'm not seeing any reason in the numbers to feel confident they are going to be able to ramp to full capacity before late spring --at best.
 
that goal was stated in Spring 06. pretty sure that goal was downwardly adjusted severely in the last couple of months.

Sorry, wasn't really clear... I meant first quarter of '07 (calendar) -- their goal for ~March 07 is to have 6m units and they were spouting that even up 'til launch.
 
600k/month would be 1/2 what they'd previously said they were aiming for capacity-wise, but is apparently roughly twice what they were able to do prior to launch.

It's still a bit early, but I'm not seeing any reason in the numbers to feel confident they are going to be able to ramp to full capacity before late spring --at best.

We'll see how the December sales are for this month... maybe they won't even be able to hit 600k a month by March, I'd be surprised, but it isn't like I haven't been surprised before!
 
you're right, but their's nothing new on the diode side.
When a work around will be found the whole world will know instantly, the probleme affect in some way sony, and others electronics giant who want to produce br players, cinematrographic industry, even the other side aka hd-dvd.
That a hell lot of money, not only sony ps3.
There is something really wrong.
At this rate I expect more bad news for sony coming from big game editors after chrismass...
 
This report "Tracking the mystery of lost PS3" in a TV news show was aired today in Japan.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tS24_gj2DFg

Yesterday they visited a young Japanese guy who bought a PS3 for the 1/4 of his monthly salary. Asked about the merit of PS3, he replies it's full HD. But the panning camera shows he only has a CRT TV and can't enjoy the full HD. The reporter laughs. The narrator says it requires investment in equipments to fully enjoy PS3.

It flashes back to the launch day and shows the cashier. Then back to today's Akihabara, Tokyo, no store has a stock of PS3. The launch day again, and this time the camera shows a group overlooking the shop from a bit distant place. They have 2 vans full of PS3. They even have a truck. Even today, everytime a store in Akihabara receives PS3 a buyout group gets most of them. The reporter meets a Chinese student who was hired by the group for 16,000 yen (137$) to get in the line on the PS3 launch day. They let him watch the video of the PS3 line on the launch day and he points out Chinese people in the line. Apparently the group hired 1,500 people for the launch day. The student says according to the head of the group they managed to get over 1200 units out of 1500 units sold at Yodobashi Camera on the launch day. The head of the group is Chinese. They export them to China, Hong Kong and Taiwan. Many PS3 are on a Chinese auction web site and one of them is priced at 8800 yuan (130,000 yen = 1117$).

They flew to Hong Kong to visit the reseller. They infiltrated their office full of cardboard boxes in which they have PS3. A PS3 sold in Japan has "J1" in its sticker and the PS3 found in Hong Kong has it. Apparently the PS3 is very popular in China and they bring 50 units every day from Japan to China via Hong Kong.

Then they invited those from India, Brasil, the UK, and Australia to let them search auction websites in their countries for PS3. They all have PS3 on sale from $1200-2400.

A day before yesterday, they visited the Sapanlek electronic store arcade in Thailand, Bangkok. They have a stock of PS3 resold from Japan. They visit a rich Thai businessman (29 years old) who has a PS3. He bought a large HDTV just for PS3 and can fully enjoy it actually unlike the Japanese guy who appeared in the beginning. Asked about the difficulty to find a PS3 in Japan, he says "oh really? It's lucky we can buy it whenever we like in Thailand." But actually he paid 4 times more than the average monthly salary in Thailand for a PS3.

Again a day before yesterday, in Hiroshima city in Japan, far from Tokyo, there was a store that would receive PS3. It took an hour to go sold-out. One of the buyers was a grandmother who was there by chance. She bought it for her grandchildren. Back at home, they and their friends got delighted.
 
November NPD Hardware Sales

DS 918K
PS2 664K
GBA 641K
360 511.3K
Wii 476K
PSP 411.9K
PS3 196.6K

On other forums they're claiming these numbers only go through 11/25. The rest of November will show up on the December #'s. If true, this will improve these totals but the Wii and PS3 might not see anything but a marginal increase.
 
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