PS3 firmware 2.60 with Divx 3.11 and Photo Gallery
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They have for a long time now, just not that particular version of the codec. Same with MS.
The browser still let the ps3 completely freeze when browsing some websites. The javascript engine seems to be the culprit.
When I visit slashdot the system just completely locks up. When disabling javascript it doesn't.
This bug is certainly a year old. With this new firmware the only thing that has changed is that now I get a dialog with the message "Javascript error" before the system freezes.
When I visit slashdot the system just completely locks up. When disabling javascript it doesn't.
This bug is certainly a year old. With this new firmware the only thing that has changed is that now I get a dialog with the message "Javascript error" before the system freezes.
It's a mixed feeling for me. On one hand, I am happy that Sony dwell more on PS3's media features. OTOH, I still see holes in the packaging.
The "Photo Gallery" is an interesting app. Although not always accurate, the advanced features can be useful at times, and fun to use. What disappoints me still is the UI. It's not intuitive enough by say... Apple's standards (fun as it may be). My wife would be confused by the app and likely give up half way.
To be fair, this time, Sony has also included an online instruction manual (with video !) to demo the feature.
It is accessible from inside the app. Although when you try to read it, the PS3 will quit "Photo Gallery". If this is the case, I'd rather they embed the video stream window within the app itself, or auto-launch "Photo Gallery" once the user quits the browser help.
In any case, it's a step up from their early effort; but the existing baggages are still there (e.g., The tedious photo UI panel is reused for viewing individual photos and running slideshow).
I am happy because Sony can take a fresh new entertainment angle to family media management. Some sort of Nintendo-style light-weight games can probably be incorporated into the Photo app. It would make the move more relevant to gamers. More people may be open to copying some media to PS3 to play the games/non-games.
Right now, I use my family photos and some old pr0n collections to test the app. Small features like making a post card, or creating a poker deck for other (local) games can bring the users closer to the PS3 platform too.
Probably. I think Sony released more than one non-bug-fixing firmware within 2-3 months before.
Unless I'm missing something -- and I might be because the Photo Gallery UI is terrible -- there's no way for me to view pictures off my DLNA device over the network? What kind of glaring omission is that?
I have a strong feeling most people won't want to copy all of their pictures (and duplicate them) to put them on the PS3 harddrive. It's just way too much work for too limited a use. The PS3 already supports pictures over DLNA outside of Photo Gallery, so I don't get it.
It honestly seems to be a pretty boneheaded application. SCE really, really needs a true software guy to take charge after the recent misfires in their software efforts...it's all about software and they don't seem to get it.
I have a strong feeling most people won't want to copy all of their pictures (and duplicate them) to put them on the PS3 harddrive. It's just way too much work for too limited a use. The PS3 already supports pictures over DLNA outside of Photo Gallery, so I don't get it.
It honestly seems to be a pretty boneheaded application. SCE really, really needs a true software guy to take charge after the recent misfires in their software efforts...it's all about software and they don't seem to get it.
Yes. Sony should fix this problem since we can read from USB FAT drives in XMB anyway.
DLNA is designed for high level media operation (e.g., playback, record, rewind, copy). The "Photo Gallery" app need more fine-grain access, like SMB/NFS. Until PS3 supports a network file system protocol, I wouldn't expect "Photo Gallery" to support remote files. The problem is Sony doesn't communicate its vision and concept at all.
They can position it differently (e.g., An entertainment tool based on photo library; like how SingStar has a separate song library despite iTunes). With DLNA and USB drives, it's pretty easy to copy media locally. Best is still to have better FAT, NTFS and SMB support -- if the network performance holds up.
The UI yes (e.g., Since one cannot set a photo as Wallpaper from inside "Photo Gallery", it should not show the option in the view photo UI). The photo processing capability is fun to use though. We toyed with it for a good hour (copied even more photos to the PS3). They need a better product guy and a flexible structure to integrate software across organizational boundaries better. The technical guys may be ok. However an experienced and senior software guy should be able to design a decently usable app.
The least they could do is permit you to import over the network via DLNA. I might've used it then. No chance now...
How do you copy photos via DLNA to the PS3?
You have to add those files to your shared files via whichever program you are using to share media (like Windows Media PLayer). Once you've done that you can access all of those photo's via the PS3 and hit triangle to copy. You can copy individual files or entire folders.
I take it that they are the same questions. It's similar to USB copy. To copy media in bulk via DLNA, go to the right level (e.g., either in "All Photos", or at the root folder level if you choose to view "By Folders" in DLNA)... then press triangle. You'll see "Copy Multiple". Just pick "Select All", or the folders/photos you want to copy.
The downside to this is subfolders are copied, at least from USB. I had web-sized versions of the same images in a subfolder of my photo's folder and these all got imported into the PS3's photo's folder. The solution then is either individually go through, check the file information on the PS3 and delete the small images...or wipe the whole lot, edit the folder structure on a PC, and import again!
It's awkwardnesses likle these that really take the sheen off the PS3's functionality. You have to navigate into a submenu to list the photos on a memory card instead of the PS3 automatically finding and listing folders with images in. For the total novice, that's a potential awkwardness. Some (all?) cameras save photos into date folders on the memory card. It's a bit surprising that rolling out a new photo-friendly upgrade, Sony miss this.
It's awkwardnesses likle these that really take the sheen off the PS3's functionality. You have to navigate into a submenu to list the photos on a memory card instead of the PS3 automatically finding and listing folders with images in. For the total novice, that's a potential awkwardness. Some (all?) cameras save photos into date folders on the memory card. It's a bit surprising that rolling out a new photo-friendly upgrade, Sony miss this.
It's slightly different in DLNA. If you don't want to copy the folder structures, go to "All Photos". The files are listed in a flat manner there. If you want to copy stuff from select folders, you can copy the folders from "By Folders". You'll need to uncheck the subfolders with small images. In a USB drive, you can also see the subfolders. Should have uncheck them before you copy the parent folder over.
I *think* for photo copy, the folder structures will not be retained (In music, the folders will be copied over DLNA intact).
Now that you mention it, "Photo Gallery" is missing a "By Dimension" group.
That would be super useful.
Yap, there are small (and annoying) discrepancies all over the place. Sony should do a few passes to harmonize them.
In "Photo Gallery", the "Rotate Photo" option is more tedious to use than the one in XMB. I could advances through a photo collection and rotate them quickly in XMB. In "Photo Gallery", because of the modal menu, I need an extra step to dismiss the menu after every rotation. They should try to preserve what's nice in the existing framework if/when they clean up the UI.
Isn't this just like a PC?
Also, I may be mistaken, but there should be a "copy multiple" option to copy a selection of songs / videos / images, rather than an entire folder.
I mean, if the industry standard for PC software (Windows) also copies Subfolders when a parent folder is copies, I think it would be far more awkward for an end user to copy a folder and NOT get those sub folders. Can you imagine copying a Discography of a band via DNLA by selecting the parent folder all the albums are located in, and only getting a few songs?
I think your rare situation is far from applicable to the majority of the users who may use this and DNLA. I don't think it's awkward or in need of as much refinement as you seem to suggest.
To be clear, I'm talking about the XMB and DNLA in general, not the new Photo Gallery feature as I haven't been able to use it yet.
No, because a PC preserves folder structure. The PS3 copies the individual files in the subfolders into the main parent folder. eg. I had a large 10 megapixel source image in the root 'Canon' folder on my memory card, and a 400x300 web-sized JPEG of the same image in 'Canon/webpics'. Both pictures were copied to PS3's photos folder under a new Jan 2009 folder as they were copied on the same day, and appear together in the XMB and Photo Gallery application. If the subfolder of images was copied as a subfolder in the PS3 Images folder, I'd have no complaint.
I'm not using DLNA, but a memory card of photos in a USB card reader. However, a quick test I've just tried shows dated folders are copied and preserved, though you have to make sure the PS3 is sorting accordingly. As such, most direct transfers from cameras should be preserved. The problem I had was as a result of reading from a manually created directory structure where assumptions about files are not valid. The mainstream impact probably is negligable.
I thought the same thing, but a better method is to use the Photo Playlist feature. It's easier to select files into a playlist than to edit the "Album Info" field for each photo. Plus, each photo can belong to more than one playlist.
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A few small things I've noticed lately, not sure when they were added:
1) The PSN account sign-up is greatly improved over previous versions. I noticed this at least 1 or 2 firmware updates ago. Far more user friendly.
2) You can now delete items on the HDD or external media without interrupting background music. Copying, however, is still not allowed.
3) The auto-shutdown after downloads complete function also seems to work with background music. No particular reason why it wouldn't that I can see, but I wouldn't have been surprised if it didn't.
1) The PSN account sign-up is greatly improved over previous versions. I noticed this at least 1 or 2 firmware updates ago. Far more user friendly.
2) You can now delete items on the HDD or external media without interrupting background music. Copying, however, is still not allowed.
3) The auto-shutdown after downloads complete function also seems to work with background music. No particular reason why it wouldn't that I can see, but I wouldn't have been surprised if it didn't.
Didn't want to start a different thread on it, but if you login on www.us.playstation.com with our PSN id you can see all your trophy details now. This works for non-US residents too (like me):
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/view-trophies-on-playstation-com
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/view-trophies-on-playstation-com
