PS3 Controller Rumor (Updated)

[rabidrabbit]

Ever take Physiology? When you are standing with your arms relaxed by your side, the palm is facing your thighs. When you hold a heavy object like a book up in the air do you hold it palm facing up or down? Why is that? I tell you why because gravity pulls the object straight down so it's easier to hold it with palm facing up. Same exact thing applys to a controller. See how long you can hold that thick dictionary with palms facing down.

And that's what I said. A round C is what the DS is forcing you to do when you use the left analog thumbstick which is the majority of the time.

And a book is much heavier object than a controller, plus a much different shape.

We're talking about DS3 not DS2.

So a forced "C" is worse than a forced "I". With the "C" the thumb is in any case using less muscles than when clenched together with forefinger. Just try if you don't believe, it takes more force to put them together than stretch them apart.

Another hint: Imagine you're playing sitting on a sofa, would you keep your arms and hands... why on earth do you keep youir hands unsupported in the air, as if holding a book letting the gravity pull them downwards, if you could rest them on your lap (as I guess most normal people do when playing with a console controller, at least I do. I know in commercials and movies the controller is often held high in front of you... but that's just for the visual impact )

To use your flawed book analogy. Imagine if your're standing, holding a book in front of you with both hands, not lifting it, but letting it hang there covering your genitals... are you still holding it (the book) palms facing forwards?

 

[Bad_Boy]

Smaller controller != more confortable for people with big hands.

first of all we dont know actually how small it is, and 2nd of all id rather have a smaller controller with slightly larger hands so i can reach all the buttons with ease rather than a huge controller where im forced to extend and contort fingers out just to touch a button.

small controller + larger hands > larger controller + smaller hands

but we will see PC-Engine, no need to downplay the Sony controller we cant even touch yet. unless you want to call it a banana boomerang, which i cant stop you from that for obvious reasons.

 

[PC-Engine]

And a book is much heavier object than a controller, plus a much different shape.
We're talking about DS3 not DS2.
Another hint: Imagine you're playing sitting on a sofa, would you keep your arms and hands... why on earth do you keep youir hands unsupported in the air, as if holding a book letting the gravity pull them downwards, if you could rest them on your lap (as I guess most normal people do when playing with a console controller, at least I do. I know in commercials and movies the controller is often held high in front of you... but that's just for the visual impact )

To use your flawed book analogy. Imagine if your're standing, holding a book in front of you with both hands, not lifting it, but letting it hang there covering your genitals... are you still holding it (the book) palms facing forwards?

It's not a flawed analogy. Everyone doesn't hold a controller on their lap. Some do some don't. Some use their elbows for support. For those who don't use their lap, palm facing slighty upward is more confortable. For those who do it probably doesn't matter if it's facing up or down. In other words the analogy holds up in more cases than not.

I'd like to see you rest your elbows on your knees with palm facing down holding a dictionary.

Oh and don't tell me a dictionary is heavy so it's different because it's not different. If the same dictionary is more difficult to hold with palm facing down than up then it will be the same with a light load. Palm facing up will always be less fatiging.

 

[rabidrabbit]

Well, I'm pretty sure most use thir controller during the gaming session both.
Like during gaming when they feel the character is not responding as they would like it to, they might involuntary move the whole controller... a bit like when your remote is running out of batteries, you instictically press the buttons harder and "thrust" the remote towards the telly as if it would make the infrared signal travel better
But for relaxed gaming, I believe most keep their controllers at their lap.
Now what about racing games, tense action games.. surely they should not be "relaxed gaming" you say. True, many people use their whole body to play these games, sitting in a hunched position with the controller held high up in front of their nose, biting their lip ... but then there are more ergonomic conserns already more alarming than the controller design

 

[rabidrabbit]

I'd like to see you rest your elbows on your knees with palm facing down holding a dictionary.

Oh and don't tell me a dictionary is heavy so it's different because it's not different. If the same dictionary is more difficult to hold with palm facing down than up then it will be the same with a light load. Palm facing up will always be less fatiging.

Well, I can say I wouldn't hold your dictionary in my lap palms facing up, that would be most uncomfortable unless I was actually reading and flicking through said dictionary.
Operating a dictionary book is really not the same as operating a controller.
Were I just holding the book on my lap I would hold it pretty much like I'd hold a controller, palms facing down.
... oh wait! you're now talking about "elbows on my knees" position! Where's my Kamasutra ?!?!

 

[PC-Engine]

Well I don't know about you but for me it's very difficult to even turn my palms downwards when resting my elbows on my knees in a hunched over position sitting on a couch and this is without anything in my hand. Having my palms face upward otoh is very natural in this position.:smile:

 

[rabidrabbit]

We're not talking about masturbating, PC-Engine.
Stay on topic, please, try not to steer away whan you're losing.

 

[PC-Engine]

We're not talking about masturbating, PC-Engine.
Stay on topic, please, try not to steer away whan you're losing.

 

[one]

nevermind.