Prediction Poll: How many PS3's will be sold?
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Some may purchase the slim PS2 but I doubt that demand is still active. If you are referring to faulty units, it doesn't matter in relative shipment/sales as all of today's consoles have an optical drive which is the No.1 reason of replacement.
Not that I'm aware, just 2008.
Well of course, but x percentage of xb1 or gc is 25% or less of x percent of ps2.
So lets say, 10% are faulty at this point.
25 million units of xb1 = 2.5 million replacements
25 million units of gc = 2.5 million replacements
100 million units of ps2 = 10 million replacements
Further, an xb or gc owner is a lot less likely to be replacing their broken box with a new gc or xb as they are old tech, with a limted library, and new tech replacement is relatively cheap:
Wii - GC
$250 - $100 = $150 for upgrade
360 - xb
$280 - $150 = $130 for upgrade
ps3 - ps2
$500 - $130 = $370 for upgrade
BTW - I didn't mean to imply that ps2 was made poorly, simply that so many of them are out there, even the replacements would add up to a large amount of units.
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As the topic of this thread is about PS3 sales, the relativity in shipments refers to PS2 vs PS3 first and foremost. I don't know exact physical properties of optical pickups in PS2 and PS3, but there's no specific reason to believe they are very different at this point.
The price diff for replacement is an interesting argument, conversely you can argue more Xbox1/GC users are buying 360/Wii for their replacement consoles than PS2 users buy PS3 now. PS2 will reach the bottom of cost reduction at some point in the near future and the price gap between PS2 and PS3 will get smaller thereafter. That's the reason why I doubt the assumption that a new cheaper PS3 SKU lacks BC.
I don't think this is a converse argument at all. I think it is directly related and to the point for why we may be seeing lower ps3 sales ATM.
When a ps2 breaks now, the replacement cost to upgrade is still very high. In the case of gc or xb, it isn't as high. However, that doesn't mean there is a 1 to 1 relationship which will continue of ps2 to ps3 and xb to xb, gc to Wii. It simply means replacement ps2 owners are unlikely to upgrade at this time or anytime soon.
PS2 software sales are slowing significantly though which shows that many of them are ready to move on to something else. If that is a PS3 or something else is unknown at this point, but the opportunity is there for these console manufacturers to jump on...
Then the logical conclusion is, not only PS2 sales, but also 360 and Wii sales benefit from broken PS2 owners right now. The cheaper PS3 gets, the less other consoles benefit from broken PS2 owners.
Potentially.
I'd say with the number of units ps2 is still moving though (in the states too), many of them are being purchased as replacement units. Thus, these gamers are not going to be in the ps3/360/Wii fold anytime soon.
As for the software sales on ps2 being down, I don't know that it is a 1 to 1 relationship of x number of gamers are buying games and will be the same x amount of games regardless. It could just be ps2 owners slowing down on their software purchases and are evaluating the NG market. Could be they moved on from games, or it could be they went mobile and bought a DS.
The cheaper the ps3 gets IMO will also bring the competition that much closer to a viable replacement for ps2 as they will also respond with pricecuts. Obviously, the ideal situation would be a ps2 to ps3 growth, but it may still be out of the realm financially for many (I think so) and they may choose N or MS instead as they are more affordable.
Games wise, I think MS is a much better choice at this point as a primary console.
Poor PS2 owners! What broke them?
50 cent: Bulletproof might have done it.
Poor PS2 owners! What broke them?
I think it was the sticker shock of their next console.
Here in Poland, PS2 sales hit a record number last Christmas and could do even better this year. It costs about $200--not that cheap given people's purchasing power. There is a large selection of games at rock-bottom prices is probably a bigger draw. They might be a couple years old, but if neither you or your friends have played them, they're new to you.
The 360 is getting within striking distance though. The Wii looks sorta hopeless. It isn't actively promoted and actually costs more than the Core.
Interesting snapshot of the market in your area.
Thanks!
I think that is also a driving force of some of the current sales of ps2 in this market as well. Not only cheap new games but cheap used games and games to borrow from friends etc. For families that don't have a lot to spend, ps2 is still a viable choice.
I'm look forwards to an 18 month old game which has only just been release to the EU
same story in nz, the 360 is actually $50 cheaper than the wii. here the wiis running a distant 3rd (mainly due to the fact nintendo do absolutely no advertising, also the psp outsells the DS heavily)
i cant see nintendos logic, perhaps they see nz as a lost cause? (the gamecube tanked)
on topic im pretty much in agreement with this article, its basically gonna be a 2 horse race between the wii+ps3 (each selling ~100million)
http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=15678
The NZ market is probably too small to justify setting up an operation there. Without people on the ground, it's hard to compete. Kiosks don't set themselves up and booth babes don't show up on their own account. Sales and PR people do earn their pay.
I doubt the Wii will figure in the long run. It's hard to see how Nintendo can keep the platform fresh. There're only so many motions the human body is capable of.
