Predict: The Next Generation Console Tech

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Even if more insider reported as said above
still many don't believe it.

What they believe is mostly:
If ms has better cpu then the ram must be DDR3
and the GPU have to be weak ????

The 6670 and 6x 7x magic word always comes up
even if most 2011 insider they already surpassed 10x (better than ps4)

So newer devkit probably go even further.
So are we going to play a game of selective choosing now? With the number of rumors flying around in the last few months you can always randomly choose one to which you like the most. Such as this.
http://sillegamer.com/2012/04/06/xbox-720-devkit-specs-detailed-includes-16-core-processor/
Discrete sources at GDC also confirmed to the publication that developers expect Sony’s Playstation 4 to be more powerful than the next Xbox, and that various studios are aiming to unveil their next generation software at E3 2012 in June, regardless of whether “Microsoft and Sony are ready or not.”
We know at least one part came true aka "StarWars 1313 and Watch Dogs". But my point being don't get too attached to any of this for now.
 
Except it didn't. Under-clocked Pitcairn rumors are last years dev kits according to Iherre so unless things changed on PS4 for better, thats what he compared Durango with.

So I assume he based on a 1.1TF gpu and 8g DDR3 xbox720 vs a 1.84TF gpu and 2g GDDR5 PS4 for that conclusion? How does the comparison look to you if that's the case, which one do you think is more powerful?
 
So I assume he based on a 1.1TF gpu and 8g DDR3 xbox720 vs a 1.84TF gpu and 2g GDDR5 PS4 for that conclusion? How does the comparison look to you if that's the case, which one do you think is more powerful?
He didn't base it on that, he based it on target specs. What he said is, leaked PS4 "specs" where last years dev kits, and Durango dev kits where 12 GB, 8 core CPU and 7xxx GPU. He said Sony is targeting 10x, and MS is going possibly even more.

When he said "PS4 is subject to change" he was speaking on RAM amount, and Durango was locked as far as specs go. Thats it.

And 1.1 TFLOP its not, its 1 TFLOP+ GPU like BG confirmed, so we don't know for sure exactly how much.

And I wouldn't put to much thought into these XboxWorld rumors. They said IBM CPU and 16 cores in Durango.
 
So are we going to play a game of selective choosing now? With the number of rumors flying around in the last few months you can always randomly choose one to which you like the most. Such as this.
http://sillegamer.com/2012/04/06/xbox-720-devkit-specs-detailed-includes-16-core-processor/
We know at least one part came true aka "StarWars 1313 and Watch Dogs". But my point being don't get too attached to any of this for now.

I been looking for this rumor every since E3 but couldn't remember where it came from, the part about devs showing Next-Gen games even if Sony & MS didn't show PS4/Xbox Next came to my mind as soon as I seen Watch Dog.
 
From semiaccurate (A guy claimed to be ATIinsider
from the news about AMD using Arm core)

AMD got the contract for both XBOX 720 & Playstation 4. I believe both will be based on the Trinity Cores with a modified GPU based on the HD 8000 series, not the HD 7000 series.


XBOX 720 = IBM’s 8-Core CPU and AMD’s HD 8000 Series GPU.
PS4 = AMD’s powered Trinity CPU based on the HD 8000 series GPU

Can we extract any conlsussion about this?
 
He didn't base it on that, he based it on target specs. What he said is, leaked PS4 "specs" where last years dev kits, and Durango dev kits where 12 GB, 8 core CPU and 7xxx GPU. He said Sony is targeting 10x, and MS is going possibly even more.

When he said "PS4 is subject to change" he was speaking on RAM amount, and Durango was locked as far as specs go. Thats it.

And 1.1 TFLOP its not, its 1 TFLOP+ GPU like BG confirmed, so we don't know for sure exactly how much.

And I wouldn't put to much thought into these XboxWorld rumors. They said IBM CPU and 16 cores in Durango.
What BG confirmed first was ~2TF gpu for PS4 though later on another rumor states 1.84 TF which coincides it pretty close. Then he goes to say he wasn't very impressed about the 1TF+ for the 720, obviously if it's close to 2TF then he would have mentioned it. But the popular belief is 1.1-1.5TF for 720, wonder if BG can reconfirm about 720's gpu as for now?
 
What BG confirmed first was ~2TF gpu for PS4 though later on another rumor states 1.84 TF which coincides it pretty close. Then he goes to say he wasn't very impressed about the 1TF+ for the 720, obviously if it's close to 2TF then he would have mentioned it. But the popular belief is 1.1-1.5TF for 720, wonder if BG can reconfirm about 720's gpu as for now?
Info that BG got said 1TF+ nothing else AFAIK. 1.1-1.5 TF was misinterpretation that everyone got going with so this is quite vague on GPU side.

I want to say that I'm only going by what Iherre and BG said, but I'm also quite curious of what one GAFer said month ago, with his friend working at AMD and Sony going for Jaguar cores (which later BG seems to agree with) from Steamroller ones before. He also said his friend has gone on Durango GPU project and its something unique. Thats maybe a reason for 1TF+ info that BG got, because they don't exactly know how much it will be.
 
Info that BG got said 1TF+ nothing else AFAIK. 1.1-1.5 TF was misinterpretation that everyone got going with so this is quite vague on GPU side.

I want to say that I'm only going by what Iherre and BG said, but I'm also quite curious of what one GAFer said month ago, with his friend working at AMD and Sony going for Jaguar cores (which later BG seems to agree with) from Steamroller ones before. He also said his friend has gone on Durango GPU project and its something unique. Thats maybe a reason for 1TF+ info that BG got, because they don't exactly know how much it will be.

The 1.1TF assumption also probably has something to do with IGN's 6670 rumor in which it translates more or less inline with the said TF amount. But anyway gonna have to wait for BG or whatever new leaks to delve further I suppose:).
 
The 1.1TF assumption also probably has something to do with IGN's 6670 rumor in which it translates more or less inline with the said TF amount. But anyway gonna have to wait for BG or whatever new leaks to delve further I suppose:).
Yes, thats my understanding too. But, than again, IGN was the one who said PS4 is HD7670 (re-branded 6670) so that should be taken with pinch of salt. If MS has something more in line with 2 TFLOPs, their strategy of giving target specs could be good. I don't think new rumors will come until new kits are sent, and that could be the end of the year.
 
Info that BG got said 1TF+ nothing else AFAIK. 1.1-1.5 TF was misinterpretation that everyone got going with so this is quite vague on GPU side.

I want to say that I'm only going by what Iherre and BG said, but I'm also quite curious of what one GAFer said month ago, with his friend working at AMD and Sony going for Jaguar cores (which later BG seems to agree with) from Steamroller ones before. He also said his friend has gone on Durango GPU project and its something unique. Thats maybe a reason for 1TF+ info that BG got, because they don't exactly know how much it will be.

I think you need to go check BG's post history again my friend. As I believe both these statements are inaccurate.
 
It's speculation on top of speculation at that point, but these are rumored 8000 series /Sea Islands specs.

Since I've always assumed the actual GPU in Durango would be a 8000 series not a 7k series, well the Mars units look pretty tasty, and more punchy than Cape Verde. 768 SP's beats the 640 in HD7770.

Oland plzkthx.

And lol @ 4x 590. I guess they want next gen consoles to have 11nm GPUs in 2017?
 
I believe the 1+ TFLOP GPU story comes from the rumors regarding the 720 having a 6000 series GPU. If the final GPU is a 8000 series, this number might be higher, isn´t it?.
 
I believe the 1+ TFLOP GPU story comes from the rumors regarding the 720 having a 6000 series GPU. If the final GPU is a 8000 series, this number might be higher, isn´t it?.

Sure, but then you have to ask why they were supposedly delivering dev kits with a 6670 if that was extremely under-representative of what an 8000 series GPU could do.
 
Sure, but then you have to ask why they were supposedly delivering dev kits with a 6670 if that was extremely under-representative of what an 8000 series GPU could do.

Maybe for the same reason they did whith the Xbox 360 dev kits, that were far less powerful than the final console.
 
Maybe for the same reason they did whith the Xbox 360 dev kits, that were far less powerful than the final console.

There was an ERP post made some pages back, wish I could find it...

Regardless, if MS is using GCN parts in the final console there will be dev kits out there with GCN parts at this point.
 
Who ever said anything about 6670 in dev kits? Durango dev kits are 8 core CPU, 12 GB of RAM and 7xxx GPU.

Maybe for the same reason they did whith the Xbox 360 dev kits, that were far less powerful than the final console.
Those were less powerful because there was nothing on the market to "emulate" GPU they are aiming for. They went from 9800 pro to X800 to X800xt in Crossfire as they got stronger hardware available.

I think people are referring to IGN or someone else claiming a 7670 in a kit (which is obviously not a GCN part, it's the same as a 6670).
If I remember correctly that rumor was PS4 one. That should give us some indication of what to make of those two rumors and the answer is - nothing.
 
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