I think only Nintendo knows that at this point, but I´m intrigued to find out. I am expecting a camera to be part of it in some way.
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I think only Nintendo knows that at this point, but I´m intrigued to find out. I am expecting a camera to be part of it in some way.
Me too.
Perhaps I just don't have imagination, but I can't see how they top 3d mocap with facial rec and voice rec.
It will certainly make things ... interesting.
There are alternatives to using shutters, something "simple" like a very fast switch to drain the capacitors on the CCD would do it could do it for instance (not simple). Dunno if 3DV patents covers something like that. Regardless it would take significant R&D to catch up with 3DV (assuming they really have a cheap shutter ready to go).
Will still don't know what tech behind this implementation other than what was included the press kit...
http://www.xbox.com/en-US/press/e309.htm
Any of that sound like the tech from 3DV? What about PrimeSense, Canessa or GestureTek? Nintendo & Sony could use go with any of their technology if Microsoft just got 3DV.
Tommy McClain
http://www.xbox.com/en-US/press/e309.htm
Any of that sound like the tech from 3DV? What about PrimeSense, Canessa or GestureTek? Nintendo & Sony could use go with any of their technology if Microsoft just got 3DV.
Tommy McClain
Canesta or 3DV for the depth sensor. Canesta seem a little too proud of all their patents as opposed to their actual products BTW.
Prime Sense seems to only infer depth from motion, which doesn't really correspond to calling it a depth sensor (but that might of course just be fluff). The part about the custom processor and body recognition on the other hand does sound a bit like Prime Sense PR.
GestureTek "only" does gesture recognition, this really comes on top of the camera technology ... having depth just makes things a whole lot easier.
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Wasn't there a rumor that MS has been in talks with Prime Sense? And possibly locked them up also?
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Yes, I posted it another thread.
We still haven't gotten any official conformation that Prime Sense or 3DV was sold to Microsoft. Today 3DV announced it was sold to a "third party", but no info on who bought them.
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Could just be a smoke screen statement to throw off the competition.
That's one of the good things about having a pc developer community. MS can lean on them to port their hi-end pc wares in relatively short time to their next gen system. Of course, the same could be done with in-house dev teams, but this limits your launch library.
I think both MS and Sony will have to be ready to launch by the end of 2011. MS has seen the difference in launching a year early and a year late. Sony has also been biten with a late launch now and seen the fruits of launching a year before MS and N.
Neither will want to give the competition a year head start on the market.
I wouldn't be surprised if they treat Natal as a separate platform as it will give the xb360 architecture legs long into 2015. xb360+Natal will likely be very comparable to whatever Nintendo cooks up with Wii2.
This lets them compete in the casual space, and keep the hardcore crowd with xb720.
Timing is crucial.
I agree 100%. MS has hyped a lot of stuff that either never came to pass, or wasn't nearly as amazing in its real-world incarnation.
Such as, Crysis, Crysis Warhead and Crysis 2?
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Interesting quote from Iwata:
He basically puts to bed all the silly "Wii HD" rumours and confirms their next piece of hardware will be targeting HD resolutions. Outside of that the interview is well worth a read, Iwata is a really intelligent guy.
http://venturebeat.com/2009/06/04/n...-not-your-iphone-the-recession-or-free-games/
Iwata said:
He basically puts to bed all the silly "Wii HD" rumours and confirms their next piece of hardware will be targeting HD resolutions. Outside of that the interview is well worth a read, Iwata is a really intelligent guy.
http://venturebeat.com/2009/06/04/n...-not-your-iphone-the-recession-or-free-games/
I read a recent analyst report, and I should probably try to google it and link it since I dont have it offhand, but I found it pretty interesting, the basic crux was, looking at consoles as game theory, there being a advantage to be gained by who jumps first into next gen. Only this time, they said they see none of the 3 players having any compelling reason to go next gen, so they dont see it happening for a while.
I totally see that. Nintendo is selling Wii's and making profit hand over fist, they have no reason to go next gen. Sony, trying to recover the huge PS3 losses, and with a high priced system that needs to come down, have no reason, and MS, comfortable with 360's position, and also trying to recoup major losses, and also with a historically still high priced system, has no reason either.
I think if either Sony or MS was killing the other, then the killee would feel pressure. But that doesnt seem to be happening. PS3 sales are fine worldwide relative to 360 given the price. For MS, despite there being an attempt to paint the 360 as aging, faltering hardware, they are competing in hardware sales with Sony just fine, probably better than most thought they would be at this point.
Didn't people saythat about the PlayStation brand name this gen?
Didn't people saythat about the PlayStation brand name this gen?
Except that there are a whole lot of "older" people who Nintendo targeted knowing they have a brand association from when they were younger and buying a NES/SNES for their children.
I'd compare it to how my parents and grandparents think of Toy Story, Finding Nemo, etc as "Disney movies" while to me (30 yr old) they are Pixar movies.
So my mother in law says she's taking my kid to the new Disney movie and I say "What Disney movie?"
"Up"
And I respond "OH! Pixar's latest."
Not exactly the same, but you get my drift?
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