snc
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soc is only one element of consoles, ram and ssd are still going cheaper with time (also times where sony was losing on selling console are in the past but history like to repeat)
Playstation 5 [PS5] [Release November 12 2020]
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By whose reckoning? Referring to industry-standard costings is irreverent for Sony, who are one of TSMC's biggest customers. They're not just having chips for PlayStation produced but silicon for everything, including hundreds of millions of CCD sensors for their CMOS sensor division.
Sony are not paying standard TSMC rates. The only other company that is throwing TSMC that large a predictable annual business is Apple and unlike Sony, TSMC are not building fabs on Apple facilities. Don't underestimate the value of that relationship and what they means for negotiating vastly better rates.
And you don't see that becoming an issue in games. We constantly have to hear about MS only being gears/halo/forza. sony has already made horizon 1,2,vr and 3 is in the works along with a multiplayer thing. That is a franchise that is about 6 years old. Spiderman a 2018 franchise will have its 3rd release this year.
I'd say we are already seeing a creative drought in gaming.
It is funny that you are complaining about a "creative drought" in gaming and yet at the same time you are supportive of further consolidation and buyouts of large multi-format publishers which will reduce the choice for consumers further and probably make the industry even more risk-averse than it already is.
What do you think MS is going to do with all those old Activision games, they're going to go on a "reboot" spree just like the movie industry is where the new versions usually suck compared to the old ones ( I'm thinking of Disney with the live-action remake of Pinocchio) .
I'm sure everyone is just looking forward to seeing Pitfall being 'rebooted" as a Tomb Raider/Uncharted rip-off, that should make big bucks ..lol
And as for your constant spinning back to Sony.... well
You are making taking you seriously in discussions very hard bro. Almost every discussion you participate in must be a made up argument about Sony vs MS.
You aren't even trying to bring a serious argument.
Inuhanyou
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Slimmmmm let's gooooooooooo
Insider gaming hasn't managed to verify it. If insider gaming verified it, it will basically be confirmed.
All of their verified leaks turns out to be real.
All of their verified leaks turns out to be real.
More PS5 Normal Size than Slim (original being PS5 Behemoth)
Inuhanyou
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It must be much smaller! If it's 5nm and they already had some possible space savings on the inside of the box at 6nm, I can't see why not.
Please Sony, I am waiting for a slim to buy. I can't justify that monster in my home
£80 price drop confirmed. Disc only - clearing stock.
www.eurogamer.net
What's the future pricing going to be? One SKU only, £400, drive sold separately? Demand still seems high at this price point so no need to drop and milk higher margins on lower cost Slimmer.
PS5 gets huge £80 price cut, dropping to just £399
In a first for the standalone console, the PS5 has a big discount worth £80.
www.eurogamer.net
What's the future pricing going to be? One SKU only, £400, drive sold separately? Demand still seems high at this price point so no need to drop and milk higher margins on lower cost Slimmer.
Tkumpathenurple
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I think that sounds about right. Dropping to >£350 within 0-6 months of the PS5Pro releasing at £500-£550£80 price drop confirmed. Disc only - clearing stock.
PS5 gets huge £80 price cut, dropping to just £399
In a first for the standalone console, the PS5 has a big discount worth £80.
What's the future pricing going to be? One SKU only, £400, drive sold separately? Demand still seems high at this price point so no need to drop and milk higher margins on lower cost Slimmer.
Should a Pro be released, that is.
Inuhanyou
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Yup
Bundle it with psvr2 plz
probably the ps5 slim will be the same price as ps5 de. sony will pocket an increased profit, or will allow retailers to have more sway in giving discounts.
Well in the UK it is dropping from £480 ($600) to £400 ($500). That's $103 current exchange.
Cost reductions were likely possible,, just not as extreme as previous consoles. Two gens of fabrication advancement should help but we aren't going to see tiny $200 boxes ever again (short of thin streaming clients).
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