NVIDIA Maxwell Speculation Thread

Considering there isn't too much difference between a 980 and a 780ti at 1920x1080 in Shadows of Mordor, it's pretty obvious the 900 series are underperforming in this game ... perhaps game/driver/setup issues?


Curious to watch memory usage in this footage ...
 
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GK110 was 7B transistors. So at 8B transistors, I'm expecting about the same number of ALUs as the GK110 but with more SMMs than GK110 had SMXs.
GM204 hast 5.2 bln transistors, GM206 has 2.94 bln. That's 8.14 combined, both combined also have 6 64 Bit memory controllers, 3 MiB L2-cache, 6 GPCs and 24 SMMs. Subtract the fixed costs (PCIe, Display, Video) and it's close enough for my taste, given that the 8-bln-number from Huang probably was round and not quite exact. I do not think that there are major surprises on GM200 at this point.
 
The market didn't tolerate $1500 for the dual titan, so I doubt it would go over too well for a single GPU board. $1k is already a ludicrously high price point.
 
The market didn't tolerate $1500 for the dual titan, so I doubt it would go over too well for a single GPU board. $1k is already a ludicrously high price point.
$1500? It was $3000 in the beginning, it was quite late when they pushed it down to $1500 and even that was (at first) only for OEMs
 
I know it was $3k initially, and that was so ludicrous they were forced to HALVE the price and it was still not nearly price/performance competitive... :p
 
I think a lot of it depends on whether or not Nvidia will still market the Titan X as a card for semi-pros (people that supposedly wanted the then massive vidmem or higher DP-rate of Titan) or if they indeed keep DP at 1/32 (which would be my guess) and market it as a gamer card. If the latter, then I hope they keep their senses, price-wise.
 
I think a lot of it depends on whether or not Nvidia will still market the Titan X as a card for semi-pros (people that supposedly wanted the then massive vidmem or higher DP-rate of Titan) or if they indeed keep DP at 1/32 (which would be my guess) and market it as a gamer card. If the latter, then I hope they keep their senses, price-wise.

It has the TITAN name so no it will not be a gimped card with 1/32 DP. It is expected to have a 1/4 ratio.

The Gamer version of Titan will be called 980 Ti and that card will probable have a lot of the DP fused off.
 
It has the TITAN name so no it will not be a gimped card with 1/32 DP. It is expected to have a 1/4 ratio.

The Gamer version of Titan will be called 980 Ti and that card will probable have a lot of the DP fused off.

There are rumors floating around that GM200 itself has a low DP rate. I'm not quite sure why NVIDIA would do this, but that's what the rumors say.
 
There are rumors floating around that GM200 itself has a low DP rate. I'm not quite sure why NVIDIA would do this, but that's what the rumors say.
It may be imposed on them simply because of process realities. On one hands, their next flagship gaming chip has to be 28nm. On the other, it needed to be at least a decent margin faster than the tier below it. With gm204 400mm2, and a practical limit of around 600mm2, that doesn't give much options.

Depending on price, they could get a FirePro W91x0 with 16 GB...
Not much of an option if your compute investment is CUDA based.
 
That's a valid point if the solutions are otherwise equal in terms of needed features, supported libraries etc. But we all know that Nvidia spends way more time on CUDA than AMD spends on OpenCL. You can't expect that to be of no consequence.
 
That's a valid point if the solutions are otherwise equal in terms of needed features, supported libraries etc. But we all know that Nvidia spends way more time on CUDA than AMD spends on OpenCL. You can't expect that to be of no consequence.

I don't think that nowadays the main driving force behind CL is AMD (if they ever were).
 
It may be imposed on them simply because of process realities. On one hands, their next flagship gaming chip has to be 28nm. On the other, it needed to be at least a decent margin faster than the tier below it. With gm204 400mm2, and a practical limit of around 600mm2, that doesn't give much options.

Yes, that's possible, but hard to say without some quantitative data about the cost of fast DP, which I don't have. Still, it's the only explanation that makes sense to me.
 
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