Curious to see if the titles just get better and better with each title. So perhaps transfer learning is happening.
There's no indication the Sharpness slider is tied to DLSS? Many games have a sharpness slider.
Yea, it is in many games. I just noted that they mentioned "another DLSS feature with a new sharpness slider" so wasn't quite sure.
Yeah not sure either. No idea if their article is purely based on the screenshots and the active Slider option just below DLSS is why they made that assumption or whether it's something Nvidia has added. Since some of the negativity towards DLSS has been due to the blurring, one wonders if they (Nvidia) decided to add a post-process filter like CAS to help.
None of us hate the technology, especially RT. What many of us dislike is marketing bullshit, which Nvidia are experts at.
There's no hate. It's about getting correct data. The impact of DLSS is measured both in quality of result and industry adoption. A list of titles quantifying industry adoption is only as useful as it is accurate. If that list is inaccurate, you get a misrepresentation on the state of industry adoption. There is thus hate towards marketing numbers that obfuscate the truth and make correct analysis difficult/impossible.
Still too early to judge this one. But with DirectML now being out in the wild, developers could be aiming to produce their own in house variants of AA or upscaling.
There is a definitive movement to include DLSS in most RTX titles.
For the time being, both NVIDIA and Microsoft (through DirectML) think they have a strong future. Microsoft repeatedly expressed that in various presentations.
No sane developer will hand out it's game code to a third party like that unless they are getting $$ in exchange. Which is literally what is being done now. Unless I'm mistaken.. Every single one of the games with DLSS are part of Nvidia's TWIMTBP (whatever this crap is called now) program.
I'd certainly like some clarification on the technical complaints rather than just a straight poo-pooing of the idea.
In terms of total effort, it's apparently a lot with the training being processor intensive and time consuming. I'm also not sure it's minimal effort - if so, why aren't more titles adding it?
But as a way to solve the upscaling problem, any progress in that department is in competition with the reconstruction methods that are proving to be far more efficient overall and with better adoption. At this point, one really needs to point to legitimate reason to invest in ML solutions. What advantages will they bring to the table? We can look at the costs/benefits of ray-tracing and see the place it has in the future of graphics, but I'm struggling to see any advantages to ML based upscaling or IQ enhancement. If it could be advanced enough, it could be a one-size-fits-all solution for both upscaling and frame interpolation, but I doubt it could ever be advanced enough.
nVidia can be discounted because they're trying to sell hardware, so will promote whatever USPs they have. As for MS, I don't recall anything in particular about game upscaling solutions. DML is about open ML to be used however devs want without any particular emphasis. Upscaling is presented as a use for ML, but that doesn't consider any evaluation on its suitability. Have you a link to MS suggesting ML-based upscaling is/will be superior to other solutions?
Here is one of the presentations concerning DirectML image up scaling.
That's a gross overstatement، sharpness filters (including CAS) have poor IQ problems in many areas. They exaggerate shimmering and noise as well. Also their 1440p to 4K scaling is atrocious. NN solutions provide better IQ in this specific area.
Who here said it is the only solution? You some how turned the argument from DLSS has no future to DLSS is the only solution for up scaling. No one said it's the only solution, we are responding to the baseless premature judgment that DLSS and NN solutions are dead in the water.
