No HDMI Cable with PS3
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Blazkowicz
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some precisions for Europe, or at least my country :
the first generations of consoles and computers were RF (pongs, Atari 2600, commodore 64 etc.), then everything was using RGB SCART, giving maximum quality and some extras (switch on the SNES when the TV is on stand by : TV switches on).
But, our TV ended up being compatible with composite, thus PSX, N64 and later consoles were shipped with those crap RCA cables with adapter (only sega kept shipping RGB cables). so they save a few cents around and have some people buy overpriced RGB cables, at the expense of image quality for most people, and incompatibility with old (80's) TV.
(also, I have an old "multi SCART" outlet somewhere, worked fine with mutliple RGB SCART but not with those RCA + adapter it seems. so, if I add some console or stuff it's a small unplug/plug fest)
I think you can consider it a "Blue Ray Tax" if you wan't a ps3 and can't care less about HD video disks. I know the debate goas along using the space for game data, but in reality Sony just wants to make it's own standar mainstream by exploiting it's ps brand, which is smart but risky IMO.
Curious here... Why would you use the word "tax"?
No, sorry. I know exactly why you use the word tax. You say "tax" because "tax" has alot of negative connotations like being involuntary and sometimes unfair. I know why you would choose a negative term - however innapropriate it may be.
I'm still curious though. I'm curious as to whether you will own up to the truth or not. So...
Why would you use the word "tax"?
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Wh expected an hdmi cable in the box? I remember being pleasantly suprised to find a component cable in the premium 360 box. Sometimes it seems like consoles having cables at all is a holdover from the days when they were still kids toys. Same with controllers to a lesser extent. Of course, we lost pack in games years ago.
That's an item for discussion: Should controllers be pack in? Would the PS3 get more penetration as a crossover device if they sold packs with only a remote? Or one with a mouse, keyboard, vga adapter and extralarge hdd?
Maybe the Wii should come with no controller at all? Probably a poor example because the wand controller is essential to the product image.... But considering the other capabilities, it's concievable that a user would have use for nothing other than the retro controller. Maybe include a voucher for one or the other?
Or what if xbox360 didin't come with "Live" and you being able to play online multiplayer games out of the box... oh wait....
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Live is the equivalent of PS3 "HD-hype".
PS3 doens't come bundled with the accessoriy that would "unlock" it's (debatably) most important and hyped feature, neither does the xbox360.
Wii does.
Edit: Included the "sarcasm" emoticon for the sarcasm-impaired
Live is the equivalent of PS3 "HD-hype".
PS3 doens't come bundled with the accessoriy that would "unlock" it's (debatably) most important and hyped feature, neither does the xbox360.
Wii does.
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Let's not revisit the old 'BluRay is a Tax!' arguments again!
Oh no, let's not. It's not a proper argument anyhow.
But I still want to know if he'll openly admit to pushing the term (no really, he was actually pushingit) in an attempt to add a speck of energy to the propaganda war.
Truth be told a feel bad for being pushy like that on a board I just barely joined.
But I'm just calling him out. Maybe something positive could come of it? Uh... maybe?Lesson N. 1: Don't feed the trolls.
Thankful ?
But Yay... PS3 seems to be more standards oriented and PC-parts friendly. It should stay that way.
Indeed - the first gen ps1 had rca outs on the box along with their custom cable connect (for svid etc) Standards are a great thing (which is kinda ironic that the standard being referenced can hardly be called a standard at this point ... going on v1.3 starting .... now!)
Standard cable connect for component would be great as you could pay for and connect whatever class cable you wanted without being limited to "official" cables selection. Such is life as a gamer I guess.
I was being serious, and also very close to slapping you with some bad rep for that...
Really, the last thing we want is more trolls than we already have, and more people feeding them and make the situation worse.
The next couple of months will see the release of the most anticipated thing since PS2, which means this forum will gradually turn worse, then suddenly explode the way we've seen it explode only very few times.
It's very important that we keep noise to a decent level and that we don't feed the trolls or this forum will just go down like it did a couple of times.
Really, the last thing we want is more trolls than we already have, and more people feeding them and make the situation worse.
The next couple of months will see the release of the most anticipated thing since PS2, which means this forum will gradually turn worse, then suddenly explode the way we've seen it explode only very few times.
It's very important that we keep noise to a decent level and that we don't feed the trolls or this forum will just go down like it did a couple of times.
The trolls will feed themselves, and they're hermafrodite to boot!
Blazkowicz
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I was thinking, about that cable. Some people will have to or want to plug their $600 PS3 with component cables, others with DVI + digital sound, DVI + analog sound, HDMI, HDMI + separate sound.. quite a number of possibilities, should sony include all combinations, or one that may be useful for a minority of people (the HDMI cable), or none.
then if people buy a $30 cable in store instead on getting a $5 one elsewhere it's their business.. who doesn't know that most stores rip you off on ANY kind of cable.
then if people buy a $30 cable in store instead on getting a $5 one elsewhere it's their business.. who doesn't know that most stores rip you off on ANY kind of cable.
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Heh, you'd be surprised! Those overpriced cables are there for a reason afterall: LOTS of people who simply don't know any better buy them at those ridiculous prices.
A lot of people's mentality is along the lines "i spent 1 or 2 grand on a new TV, i can afford the extra 50 quid for a cable" without thinking that 50 quid for a cable is just plain ridiculous, without knowing that you can get the same cable for 5 quid online.
scooby_dooby
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Not to mention the salesmen make a ton of commission off of every cable they sell so they push them very hard to Joe Blow.
No component cable either?
http://www.us.playstation.com/PS3/specs.html
Looks like no HD output at all without an accessory...at least in NA.
http://www.us.playstation.com/PS3/specs.html
Looks like no HD output at all without an accessory...at least in NA.
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