No HDMI Cable with PS3
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Um, no they don't...
I think he mistook it for component. 360 does not ship with RGB cable, but does include a fairly good quality component cable.
Sorry, didn't realize I was talking to someone on your side of the world.
Component through the SCART adapter in the EU's premium 360's is effectively no different from RGB. In fact the component through SCART may be slightly higher quality since it's less likely to suffer from outside interference than typical SCART RGB cables.
I think you may have gotten a bad brand there. I've got a 30 foot HDMI cable to my projector and havent had any problems at all.
Are you talking about this $500 cat 5e thing from gefen?
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Shipping w/o an HDMI cable was basically expected, but the more important question is whether or not either/both of the SKU's come with component cables and/or some kind of VGA solution, as both of those are much more likely to be important to the common consumer.
But yeah, it'd be nice if they put their money where their mouth is when they're talking about a $600 system. Maybe they should shop at MonoPrice...
But yeah, it'd be nice if they put their money where their mouth is when they're talking about a $600 system. Maybe they should shop at MonoPrice...
I dont even have a HD TV yet I am planniung to get the exoenbsive version. Similarly goes for almost everyone else.
I care how much Sony loses? The answer isn't yes.......
If you're going to force blu ray+ down my throat, how about giving me the means to actually use it properly out of the box?
This would be the equivalent of the 360 shipping with composite cables. Some of you need to quit signing up for the "Sony defense force" and get a clue.......
wow 30$ for a hdmi cable... those dam factory machines must really require allot of power to build them, probably allot more copper and rubber than* other cables use,i wonder if they bade them in gold(or just golden paint like some fake audio cables going around for years)... hdmi the new buzzword!
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I bought a HDMI upscaling Philips DVD player this year and it came with the power cable. Nothing else. Now THAT is outrageous. Not only there was no HDMI cable (in a player which was advertised as one of the best HDMI upscaling players at the time), but not even a bloody SCART!!
Really, I'll be surprised if Sony put in a component cable in the PS3! Consoles have always been packaged with crap cables afterall, otherwise they'd make no money off the separate overpriced cables they sell as "high quality cables" which are in fact very standard quality indeed.
Really, I'll be surprised if Sony put in a component cable in the PS3! Consoles have always been packaged with crap cables afterall, otherwise they'd make no money off the separate overpriced cables they sell as "high quality cables" which are in fact very standard quality indeed.
I didn't mean that you should care how much Sony would lose. I meant it's not a big surprise to me that HDMI cable isn't in a package.
YEa, and Sony should ship the premium SKU with an optical cable too, and a component cable, and s-video, and throw in a composite also. While we're at it, a memorystick, a compact flash and a SD card too... and a wireless mouse + keyboard, an usb cable for PSP connectivity in case you find the wireless too slow, a LAN cable also if you don't have WiFi in the house... hell they really sould bundle a wireless router because they're forcing the WiFi down our throats!
Get real.
Get real.
Uhm, what does that have to do with anything, hm?
What on EARTH are you talking about?
The adapter in question has a composite video in plug (and audio left and right) in one end, and a scart connector in the other. No different than the plugs that came with the SNES, N64, PS2, and undoubtedly a bunch of other consoles.There's no such thing as a component to scart adapter; scart is purely an SD frequency plug, it wouldn't even be technically possible to make one in the first place.
Erm, yea right. Sure.
What basis do you have for making such an observation? Might I add that scart RGB is only 15kHz video, 720P is considerably higher (and thus inherently more susceptible to interference). Also, any format conversion of any type typically does not improve quality of the output, often rather the opposite even if both input and output is purely digital - and that would not be the case here... Besides, it's irrelevant, because it's not a component to scart adapter anyway.
We get exactly the same 6-prong component cable as you murricans do.The Xbox 360 comes with nice component cables and the Toshiba HD-A1 comes with an HDMI cable. I will avoid pointing out that both of these are cheaper than the PS3...I bought a HDMI upscaling Philips DVD player this year and it came with the power cable. Nothing else. Now THAT is outrageous. Not only there was no HDMI cable (in a player which was advertised as one of the best HDMI upscaling players at the time), but not even a bloody SCART!!
Really, I'll be surprised if Sony put in a component cable in the PS3! Consoles have always been packaged with crap cables afterall, otherwise they'd make no money off the separate overpriced cables they sell as "high quality cables" which are in fact very standard quality indeed.
The 360 is a great console, and I'm sure that toshiba is a nice HDDVD player, but neither are a replacement for a PS3, and it'd be vastly more expensive buying those two items just for the cables, when what one really want is a PS3.
I don't really care that/if the PS3 doesn't come with a HDMI cable. I need a HDMI-to-DVI cable myself, and that's sure not to be included in the box no matter what! Yeah, there are converter plugs (and I even own one I might add), but due to the placement of the connectors on the back of my TV I seriously doubt I could use that solution. It most likely wouldn't be possible to stick the HDMI cable into the adapter once it was fitted...
I don't really care that/if the PS3 doesn't come with a HDMI cable. I need a HDMI-to-DVI cable myself, and that's sure not to be included in the box no matter what! Yeah, there are converter plugs (and I even own one I might add), but due to the placement of the connectors on the back of my TV I seriously doubt I could use that solution. It most likely wouldn't be possible to stick the HDMI cable into the adapter once it was fitted...
The Xbox 360 comes with nice component cables and the Toshiba HD-A1 comes with an HDMI cable. I will avoid pointing out that both of these are cheaper than the PS3...
Can we compare things like that ? It seems that people are getting agitated as the launch draws near.
Assuming the hi-end model...
The Xbox 360 can't play HD movies, has 40Gb less HDD space, 1 fewer USB port, no WiFi, no HDMI port to begin with, no motion sensing controller, has rumble, has 1 component cable, play different selection of games, ... etc. etc.
The Toshiba HD-A1 is a HD-DVD player. We can follow similar logic to derive its worth to a gamer.
If Sony feels generous, I'll take a bundled second controller any day... afterall it costs $49 on Xbox 360 (Probably similarly priced on PS3 ?).
I would like to choose my own 5 to 300 buck TV cable, HDMI or otherwise.
Because in the US, RGB cables are component cables which come in every single 360 premium.
Or were you not aware of how our system works? Hm?
What on EARTH are you talking about?
The premiums come with COMPONENT, not composite cables. And COMPONENT are RGB cables.
Or didn't you know that?
Oh really?
http://www.misco.co.uk/productinformation/~125219~WW~/index.htm
Scroll down to the bottom and tell me what A/V cables are included...
Now that we have just proven you don't have any clue as to what you are talking about, would you like to remove your attitude and be more civil?
Erm, yea right. Sure.
What basis do you have for making such an observation? Might I add that scart RGB is only 15kHz video, 720P is considerably higher (and thus inherently more susceptible to interference). Also, any format conversion of any type typically does not improve quality of the output, often rather the opposite even if both input and output is purely digital - and that would not be the case here... Besides, it's irrelevant, because it's not a component to scart adapter anyway.
I'm not even going to bother with your ignorant claims since you clearly don't know what you are talking about.
And FYI, my component cables only have 5 plugs, not 6, so once again you clearly don't have a clue. Perhaps instead of guessing you should try actually looking this stuff up. You know, put those Google skills to work. Then you might just find out I do know what I'm talking about.
At least I know that Component is just an analog video input with RGB seperation and is in no way directly related to HDTV. My SDTV also uses a component connection. Something you seem to be blissfully unaware of.
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Probably not, but l-b had point out an example of a high end component that didn't come with any cables so I thought it only fair to point out two examples--both in the same market as the PS3--that do come with cables.
I do disagree with treating online prices as the cost to the consumer. The cost to the consumer is the cost of the cable at the store in which they buy the PS3. It will be a rare person who goes into Best Buy, lucks upon a PS3 in November and when told that he needs to buy an expensive HDMI cable decides to wait the 3-4 days to receive the cable from an online merchant.
I would think the PS3 will come with component cables at a minimum, but regardless I struggle to care one way or another since I don't think it affects anything other than perhaps annoying a handful of consumers...
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