Nintendo Announces Dual-Screen Portable

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london-boy said:
Well, performance costs money. If the features are not on par with PSP then it is not on par on a performance level, therefore the argument is null.

If they do a "gaming focused" handheld, i fear the handheld market will become like the console one, as in Nintendo being stuck in the dark ages while newer competitors beat their asses with newer and feature-rich hardware.
Personally i would rather buy a gaming+video+MP3+[other] device for £200 than a gaming-only device for £100. But that's just me, and anyway it aint gonna happen cuz i'm totally broke...

We'll have to see...

features as in what . A cell phone ? I get my cell phones for free with its own battery why would i want to pay sony for one that needs to share its batterys ?

WHy would i want to pay nintendo for that .

If i can get a psp lvl 3d hand held for half the price and not have an option of getting a cell phone add on or a media stick movie player add on i will be very happy as they are features i would never use and would be a waste of money.


as in Nintendo being stuck in the dark ages while newer competitors beat their asses with newer and feature-rich hardware.

The psp isn't any more feature rich than the ds . YOu can add to the psp if you want to spend even more money and get extra featuers. But to me it has less features and costs more right off the bat. Why aren't there two screens on the psp ?

Or will sony come out with a second screen but make you pay for it ?
 
Why aren't there two screens on the psp ?


:LOL: Can i ask,

Why are there 2 screens on DS?? It's not entirely clear at the moment...

The fact that PSP is less feature rich than DS right out of the box is from which news report exactly? Cause it looks like it will be able to play videos and music straight out of the box (of course u'd have to buy a storage medium, but it's the same as the need to buy Memory Cards for PS2 and GC which are not included in the initial package)...
 
london-boy said:
Cause it looks like it will be able to play videos and music straight out of the box (of course u'd have to buy a storage medium, but it's the same as the need to buy Memory Cards for PS2 and GC which are not included in the initial package)...

You have to buy music / films you already own again to hear them on a single device in a format nobody else uses...
that's not what I as a consumer need and I am pretty sure a lot of other people feel the same about this issue. That is not to say that the PSP is a bad gaming device etc. but I feel that music / video playback on it is just a waste of money as it doesn't support any common format...
 
Where did i read you can upload Mp3s and MP4 videos onto memory stick to then listen to/view them on the PSP? Or is that feature gone forever?

That was the whole point of my argument, and if those arent there anymore, then i'm sorry JVD and everyone else, we're back to square 1.
 
london-boy said:
Where did i read you can upload Mp3s and MP4 videos onto memory stick to then listen to/view them on the PSP? Or is that feature gone forever?

That was the whole point of my argument, and if those arent there anymore, then i'm sorry JVD and everyone else, we're back to square 1.


I've never read you can upload mp3s or mp4s .

YOu might be able to.

But then will you need to buy an adapater to hook it up to your pc to use ?

Then right there its not out of the box


If you can't see what the second screen is then go buy a duel monitor video card and get a game that supports it and see how great it is .
 
It probably won't be there right out of the box (MP3 and MPRG4 loading to memsticks), but Sonys coming line of TV's will have a Mam Stic slot that can record up to 2h of video from TV (Mem Stick can be used as videorecorder), And without doubt there'll be numerous other products (from Sony at least, PSX) where you can put MP3's (or other format) music to msticks.
If I remember right, PSP was supposed to have either WiIFi or Bluetooth, that would make transferring files from PC simple (I already do that with SonyEricsson P900)

I think many of the features that were announced for PSP, will not be 'out of the box', but require some addons, like a bluetooth GPS block for GPS positioning, some phone adapter card or software (maybe it will be possible to install these programs to PSP with MemSticks, like it is possible in SE P900), Movies and music you could buy ore-recorded on those discs or watch your own transferred movies/listen to music from MemSticks.

oops, was this a Nintendo handheld thread, sorry...
still, I don't see much gaming added value in dual screens, on PC or handhelds, but maybe it's just cos there hasn't been yet much software to prove it is innovative (flight sims don't interest me).
To me 16:9 gaming wiew is just optimal, I can see most without moving my eyes or head too much (ok, in a handheld the screens are'nt going to be so big so as I'd have to exercice my eye or neck muscles too much, but still...)
 
As far as I know, they still plan on being able to utilize MS for a number of other purposes, as well as putting basic PDA functionality into the unit (as "why not"?) to play up its "not just a game machine" angle. Pic-swapping both with the PC and with the PSX will probably be desired, and more than likely there will at least be a USB cable included with the unit, which takes care of most easy connectivity.

Overall, we'll likely have to wait until E3-ish times to find out that the launch plans are for the unit. Both units.
 
jvd said:
But then will you need to buy an adapater to hook it up to your pc to use ?

Then right there its not out of the box.

A USB cable, that's your adapter.
Shouldn't be too expensive to include in the box.
 
Fox5 said:
Tagrineth said:
The odd thing about N64's AA is that it's Line AA (Wu), and doesn't work on all edges... often if you stop and look around, you can see probably a quarter of the on-screen edges aren't AA'ed at all, while the rest are blended perfectly.

Isn't that the same with any edge AA solution?

Yup. I meant to say "...(Wu), and therefore doesn't work..."

But it's good Nintendo chose line AA... considering that it's the sole reason it was so fast and was thus enabled in nearly all N64 games. And it looked GOOD.
 
jvd said:
I was thinking more like the gba sp but with an extra fold . THat would keep it nice and small .

Eh, that'd be pretty thick when folded up, don't you think?

That mock up is the first DS design I've seen that good look real, but the analog stick is too high and wouldn't let the lid close. And I don't think nintendo would opt for that button layout. It also makes it hard to imagine what kind of usefulness a setup like that would have for the 2nd screen, outside of stats, because they're not close enough to look at both at the same time.
 
I get the impression that Nintendo would probably be smart enough to put the screens flush up against each other, or at least as close as possible, to facilitate using both screens as one (which IS stated as possible in the various quotes!).
 
Re: Another Mock

That has been posted before... and it gets less and less funny everytime I see it :rolleyes:
 
The GMR article reveals that Nintendo has in fact been in talks with Sharp for the potential use of their 3D display technology in a future Nintendo handheld. Obviously, this doesn't mean that the DS is that handheld, but there is another clue that lends credence to the idea.

Sharp has explained in the past how two TFT LCD screens can work in conjunction to create a 3D view. According to Iam Matthew, 3D Solutions Business Development Manager at Sharp Systems of America, "Sharp's TFT 3D LCD technology works on the principle of displaying left and right eye views that are separated so that the left eye sees only the left eye image, and the right eye sees only the right eye image."
 
Evil_Cloud said:
The GMR article reveals that Nintendo has in fact been in talks with Sharp for the potential use of their 3D display technology in a future Nintendo handheld. Obviously, this doesn't mean that the DS is that handheld, but there is another clue that lends credence to the idea.

Sharp has explained in the past how two TFT LCD screens can work in conjunction to create a 3D view. According to Iam Matthew, 3D Solutions Business Development Manager at Sharp Systems of America, "Sharp's TFT 3D LCD technology works on the principle of displaying left and right eye views that are separated so that the left eye sees only the left eye image, and the right eye sees only the right eye image."

Wow, isn't that what the virtual boy did? I don't think nintendo would go for another headmounted device, and I don't see that working without it being headmounted.
 
Fox5 said:
Wow, isn't that what the virtual boy did? I don't think nintendo would go for another headmounted device, and I don't see that working without it being headmounted.

Go read on the technology, the point of having two displays in sharp's method is to create 3D without an head mount or glasses.

Here's GMR concept, keep in mind that they did this and speculated on what it would be before the actual DS announcement

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Main problem with the theory though, if i understood sharps' explanation is that the whole point of a 2 LCD 3D display is to project an image slightly different on the two screens, but im pretty sure it would require both screens to be placed next to each others horizontally, not vertically. But im no display engineer so what would i know.

http://www.sle.sharp.co.uk/research/3d/3dbackground.htm

Seems like they can actually make it work on a single LCD with a parallax barrier.
 
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