@RancidLunchmeat Both Xbox One and PS4 play the games of the HDD. Games don't play off BluRay. Your only option is full install.
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hard to believe >100GB taken up by the OS etc then again MS did release a 32GB tablet with ~20GB free
apple is also bad in this regard
hard to believe >100GB taken up by the OS etc then again MS did release a 32GB tablet with ~20GB free
apple is also bad in this regard
PS4 has about 400GB free of 500GB. Both reserve a ton of space. I doubt either one is actually using all of that space for the OS. They probably have storage space set aside just in case, for future updates, the same way they reserve RAM for the OS that they're probably not fully using.
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Full PS4 installs of games have consistently been reported as being 4x to 8x faster than Xbox One. I think Microsoft used a slower drive than they could have.
@zed, @RancidLunchmeat
You need to remember that "500 GB Drive" is only 465 Gigs. This has to do with units. It's 500 GigaBytes and NOT 500 GibiBytes. This is 1000 vs 1024 for each unit. This means you only have [500 * 1000 * 1000 * 1000 bytes] which works out to be 465 GibiBytes (Gigs). So 35 Gigs is lost to measurement.
Then you have to partition the drive, so there will be some overhead required to track partitions.
Then you have to format the drive, so there will be some overhead required to track files and directories.
I can post additional specs on the Xbox One hard drive partitions and how much is used for what, later. I need to find my previous post about this when the news of self-upgrading the drive first hit.
EDIT: here's the original post...
You need to remember that "500 GB Drive" is only 465 Gigs. This has to do with units. It's 500 GigaBytes and NOT 500 GibiBytes. This is 1000 vs 1024 for each unit. This means you only have [500 * 1000 * 1000 * 1000 bytes] which works out to be 465 GibiBytes (Gigs). So 35 Gigs is lost to measurement.
Then you have to partition the drive, so there will be some overhead required to track partitions.
Then you have to format the drive, so there will be some overhead required to track files and directories.
I can post additional specs on the Xbox One hard drive partitions and how much is used for what, later. I need to find my previous post about this when the news of self-upgrading the drive first hit.
EDIT: here's the original post...
shredenvain
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That's true. I have heard the difference in install times comes more down to how they install the games though. If you take an Xbox One offline to install your disc based titles they will install faster.
Be awesome if you could stack them!! Make the console a full 24" wide...Damn, that's pretty slick. It's like having an extra internal HDD but on the outside. In other words, if someone came over, they'd never know that you have 2 HDDs available to store all your games, music, video's and whatever on.
Hell, with some of the BF deals on the Samsung Evo. I was almost tempted to buy 4 of them and have 4 TB of SSD storage on my XBO to run games on. Well, except I haven't turned my XBO on in a few months now.
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I might take to Kickstarter with an idea. LOL
Apparently it has to do with the DRM change from making the physical disc the DRM method. I dunno, I can't explain. I just read it from one of Phil's tweets. Having said that, I'd wish it were 4 - 8x faster.
Yeah I thought it was pretty slick too. And I also doubt very many could tell it was added on.
That HDD / USB expansion for XBONE reminded me of this product and era:
I like it a lot!
It reminds me more of this...
Be awesome if you could stack them!! Make the console a full 24" wide...
LOL, yeah, you could daisy-chain the IBM PCjr sidecars too. BTW, I always wanted to have a customized Xbox 360 inside a IBM PCjr case. They look so similar.
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How does that happen? Other than not being online means it's not insisting on downloading patches before you can play.
I think that could be it /why.
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Arguably then it's not installing faster it's just installing less.
shredenvain
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I'm not sure exactly why or how it works.
I just know from experience that taking the X1 offline to install games cuts down on install time and most of the time allows you to start playing around 8 to 10 percent. After the install is finished go back online and install the patch or update. If you have a decent connection the patch will download fairly quickly.
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Yeah see that is part of the problem with the X1 installing while online you don't get to play the title until the update is downloaded in alot of instances. Take the console offline though and you can play the campaign starting at around 10%. The system is installing the content from the disk as well as the patch at the same time.
This becomes a problem if the day one patch is quite large.
LOL. Didn't see this one coming - apparently Bitcoins are acceptable currency when purchasing you digital Microsoft wares:
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2014/12/xbox-windows-store-now-accepting-bitcoin-payments/
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2014/12/xbox-windows-store-now-accepting-bitcoin-payments/
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That's quite a brave move given the digital currency economy is still something of an enigma and lacks real regulation in many countries to prevent fraud. But I guess Microsoft can probably afford the costs if something goes wrong!
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Yeah I thought it was pretty slick too. And I also doubt very many could tell it was added on.
It reminds me more of this...
LOL, yeah, you could daisy-chain the IBM PCjr sidecars too. BTW, I always wanted to have a customized Xbox 360 inside a IBM PCjr case. They look so similar.
Tommy McClain
Ahh.. my first computer. We had two sidecars on our PCjr, because yeah! It was a nice little machine, but I still remember the snow job the sales guy gave my parents to buy the PCjr instead of the PC. This one can do everything, it's cheaper, plus if it can't do anything, just buy these expansion slots and it can do more! Cartridge based systems were just so cool.
The really useful thing about this enclosure is that it migrates the USB ports to the front of the console, the One doesn't have any on the front, so if your system is in an enclosure or whatnot, they are difficult to get to. Sure, it also looks better than just having a HDD hanging off of it.
Also, thanks to everybody who replied about the HDD space and full game installs. At least I know there isn't some option that I was missing. Still kind of shocking to me that you can only essentially swap between 6 or so games due to the full install.
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