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Really a moot point at this point since the feature has been removed.
Well, if the final experience wasn't what people understood it to be, that'd change the outrage they should now be feeling.

Sharing = full games to ten people : XB1 buyers wanting to share could be furious at the removal.

Sharing = one hour demo for ten people : XB1 buyers can appreciate it's not such a loss, and be angry at MS for suggesting the sharing feature was something worthwhile.
 
Well, if the final experience wasn't what people understood it to be, that'd change the outrage they should now be feeling.

Sharing = full games to ten people : XB1 buyers wanting to share could be furious at the removal.

Sharing = one hour demo for ten people : XB1 buyers can appreciate it's not such a loss, and be angry at MS for suggesting the sharing feature was something worthwhile.

Yes, maybe it was decided that finally revealing it as game shareware would be a bigger PR blunder than just dropping it during the DRM flip flop.
 
Well, if the final experience wasn't what people understood it to be, that'd change the outrage they should now be feeling.

Sharing = full games to ten people : XB1 buyers wanting to share could be furious at the removal.

Sharing = one hour demo for ten people : XB1 buyers can appreciate it's not such a loss, and be angry at MS for suggesting the sharing feature was something worthwhile.

bottom line: just be angry at MS :LOL:
 
Simple question: why on earth would anyone care if multiple people are playing a 45 minute demo at the same time? I'm not trying to insult anyone, but that just sounds stupid. :rolleyes:

It ISN'T a demo that's why. Whatever they say now is irrelevant. What MS said before did not negate the possibility of something like a nag screen that could say pop up every hour to ask if you wanted to pay for the game and then play through it. It isn't a time limit if you functionally can keep playing. This is what the verge source said.

I'll go one further and say even if they claim it's exactly the same game and unencumbered, which they never did since nobody asked them, you could still drop in the nag from the 3rd display plane.
 
It ISN'T a demo that's why. Whatever they say now is irrelevant. What MS said before did not negate the possibility of something like a nag screen that could say pop up every hour to ask if you wanted to pay for the game and then play through it. It isn't a time limit if you functionally can keep playing. This is what the verge source said.

I'll go one further and say even if they claim it's exactly the same game and unencumbered, which they never did since nobody asked them, you could still drop in the nag from the 3rd display plane.

The thing is if a game being shared had a nag screen ....that's no problem really .
The fascinating thing may have been direct selling .....let's say you played a friends copy of a game got two or three levels into the game and then moved on to some other game .
I wonder would it have been possible for a developer to directly message if the game after let's say 6 months got a price drop .
I.E a message on your home pages saying something like this kill all aliens is now half price with all DLC included buy it now and carry on where you left off by pressing the link below .

A interesting oportunity for a developer to gain extra sales long after a game been forgotten about .
 
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bottom line: just be angry at MS :LOL:

Being angry at MS is joy that has been handed down from generation to generation for 40 years now.;)

Actually the average person will probably forget anyway when the console is released except for a few stalwarts relatively speaking.

One last funny prediction:

MS PR Flack: In order to restore some the pioneering work done by Microsoft in trying to bring a bold Next Generation family shared plan to our customers we have worked with publishers to create a New family plan. The New Shared Game concept we are working with will allow gamers to play a shared game with only a small ad that shows up every hour ...
 
The thing is if a game being shared had a nag screen ....that's no problem really .
The fascinating thing may have been direct selling .....let's say you played a friends copy if a game a couple of thing got to or three levels into the game and then moved on to some other game .
I wonder would if have been possible for a developer to directly message if the game after let's say 6 months got a price drop .
I.E a message on your home pages saying something like this kill all aliens is now half price with all DLC included buy it now and carry on where you left off by pressing the link below .

A interesting opotunity for a developer to gain extra sales long after a game been forgotten about .

Sure anything is possible. I guess I don't understand why people think that the XB1 isn't going to be full of stuff like this eventually. Synergy !! The 3rd display plane makes for quick screen changes but also for overlays and "snap" screens for adverts of all kinds.

Don't get me started on the marketing magic that can come along with showing ads and getting biometric feedback from the audience using the Kinect :devilish:
 
The first fitness game that uses all of kinects new futures in my opinion sadly has the chance to be a bigger system seller than any hardcore game if wii fit is any indication of the size of market for that sort of thing :)
I can hear to now kinect screaming back work it work it you slacking do you want to drop that dress size or what :) :) :)
 
The first fitness game that uses all of kinects new futures in my opinion sadly has the chance to be a bigger system seller than any hardcore game if wii fit is any indication of the size of market for that sort of thing :)
I can hear to now kinect screaming back work it work it you slacking do you want to drop that dress size or what :) :) :)

It can yell at you in German !! That'll keep you moving ;) Actually now that you mention it how many celebrities are going to have their image and voice used to get fans to tone up and lose weight with the Kinect. You can be berated by Clint Eastwood for being a wuss for not finishing that last rep !!! :LOL:
 
The DLC for the fitness game could be celebrity personalities. It could be legendary!
 
The DLC for the fitness game could be celebrity personalities. It could be legendary!

Well with the kinect they could possibly "rotoscope" a celebrity on top of you.

With the wonders of the Kinect 2 YOU could be your favorite celebrity, fighting crime, solving puzzles. You and your favorite personality can be TOGETHER and the SAME with the Xbox ONE !!

they don't call it rotoscoping anymore and it isn't a travelling matte... I guess it just mo-capping something on you.
 
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Well with the kinect they could possibly "rotoscope" a celebrity on top of you.

With the wonders of the Kinect 2 YOU could be your favorite celebrity, fighting crime, solving puzzles. You and your favorite personality can be TOGETHER and the SAME with the Xbox ONE !!

they don't call it rotoscoping anymore and it isn't a travelling matte... I guess it just mo-capping something on you.

Neologism?

That's a very creative idea.
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neologism

Mo-Cap as a neologism. I think I am using the word correctly.



I'm sure someone at MS has thought of it 3 ways till Sunday. Good use of the cloud for rendering the celebrity "compositing" them into the game ;-) Who says there is no good rendery use for the CLOUD !! :D

I wasn't correcting you... :LOL: in your edit notes it says neogism... Which I never heard of. If they put as much thought into the true gaming capabilities of Kinect 2 as they put into its engineering it could really be a homerun. But they have to come out of the gate swinging... No one will give them the slack of more than six months to show its gaming value. I know I won't.

Boxing would be an awesome showcase of this... DVR Ing and sharing a boxer with your face... Getting his ass beat over twitch would be epic!!!!
 
I wasn't correcting you... :LOL: in your edit notes it says neogism... Which I never heard of. If they put as much thought into the true gaming capabilities of Kinect 2 as they put into its engineering it could really be a homerun. But they have to come out of the gate swinging... No one will give them the slack of more than six months to show its gaming value. I know I won't.

Boxing would be an awesome showcase of this... DVR Ing and sharing a boxer with your face... Getting his ass beat over twitch would be epic!!!!

The kinect will have an advantage tracking derived skeletons and such so it will be the one to beat if you don't need a controller. A new illumi room demo would be cool to.
 
Simple question: why on earth would anyone care if multiple people are playing a 45 minute demo at the same time? I'm not trying to insult anyone, but that just sounds stupid. :rolleyes:

It's not a 1 hour demo but a 1 hour time limited session where you can play the entire game. The twitter denials by MS execs could refer to people branding it as a 'demo', which it's not.

Otherwise, you'd have to wonder - MS are on the one hand trying to reduce the value of used games (I know this was one of their priorities when designing the ecosystem of the new box) but on the other hand they are making it far easier for people to freeload?

Think about it, if 10 people can share their entire game libraries with each other so easily, that's a lot more people playing a game without paying for it than you would see with lending or second hand sales.

Eg. I can see all the games my friends have and instantly play them, rather than having to remember to get it off them etc. Plus people can easily see if their friends have a game they want before they buy it themselves.

And rather than waiting for other friends to finish playing your friend's game so you can borrow it, a group of friends can all play the same game during the same time period, albeit asynchronously.

So I think it's pretty unlikely that MS would serve up this kind of 'all you can eat' game sharing buffet for gamers.
 
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