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Low signal to noise ratio for sure, and gets worse as it gets bigger, but it's still the biggest and most informed gaming forum out there.
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Low signal to noise ratio for sure, and gets worse as it gets bigger, but it's still the biggest and most informed gaming forum out there.
If xbox lives onto more generations, they will need to not piss people off to get sales. I doubt they will abandon everything completely. I have no much a problem with online connection. I don't mind it much. I am use to steam and PC I guess.
I find some threads are worth reading but ultimately posting doesn't seem that great.
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If I'm understanding this correctly there are actually a few different potential scenarios:
- License Transfer: A complete transfer of the license in which case the game is no longer available to the original holder. Transfer fee involved or a direct de-activation then re-activation (no charge as if you're gifting/second handing the game)?
- Additional License: Original license holder and a new user both installed the game from the same disc. New user has to pay to play that installed copy. Original user still maintains license. Sounds like a full new game price for the new user if I'm reading correctly.
- Single User | Multiple Consoles: The same user with multiple consoles will apparently have no issues. The question is the number of supported activations and if the game can be played at the same time on each console. This should (could) work for friend sharing too.
They just abandoned all your digital Xbox 360 sales from transitioning over to the new platform. What makes you think they care if you're able to play your content in another 8 years? (playing devil's advocate of course, but still hurts a little).
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This sounds like a good overview of what we know. On the last one it seems they will allow free installs on multiple consoles in the same household. Outside the household is where they make you pay.
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I'm not sure the PS4 will get away with used software if the new Xbox truly requires a license transfer. In a sense publishers would be asking one platform's users to subsidize another platforms users which would not sit will with those coming up short. Perhaps we need a little more info to draw any strong conclusions....
FWIW today's back and forth on Twitter and other places suggest to me at least that all this isn't sorted out yet between the manufacturers and the content creators.
Further both platforms have been rather coy with the details which suggest some things are 'still to be determined' and or they are waiting for E3 and the hype of games to make some this go down easier.....
Sony also mentioned game installs. I have no doubt they, too, will have a system similar to this.
This makes sense to me
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does anyone have a rough formulae/estimate for what the average game budget should increase by for this next generation? I think it should also be noted that for the next 18 months or so its reasonable to expect most developers will launching their titles on PS3, PS4, 360, One, PC and possibly Vita/3DS. I'm not going to include WiiU but for many it would be logical to expect support for that platform as well. That has to increase cost, the question is can it be estimated with any good rule of thumb?
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Should we make a launch titles thread in the Games forum? Here's a quick list I was able to come up with...
These were are confirmed today. Any others?
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- Assassin's Creed 4: Black Flag
- Battlefield 4
- Call of Duty: Ghosts
- Destiny
- EA Sports: FIFA 14
- EA Sports: Madden 25
- EA Sports: NBA Live 14
- EA Sports: UFC
- Forza Motorsport 5
- Quantum Break
- Thief
- Watch Dogs
These were are confirmed today. Any others?
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I remember Sony making it clear that it's up to the publishers to control that as they wish, and Sony themselves won't be doing any of that.
It's a good move from Sony to offload any responsibilities (and possible lawsuits) to the publisher and not themselves.
And I am pretty confident there will be lawsuits as this business model probably won't go well in certain countries.
Stupid me, of course this would not work since it's just like it is today. You own the disc, you can play. Oh well it was fun while it lasted, my investment in games will be a bare minimum if they treat me this way.
COPS N RAPPERS
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official pics from gamersyde are in 1080, but the footage is in 720p on their site.
http://gamersyde.com/news_xo_forza_motorsport_5_announced-14069_en.html
made a simple snap shot comparison of the two.
screen shot
video capture
i don't think anyone's going to gain much detail on the edges from either sources.
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after all's been said and done i was hoping for some ground breaking stuff at some point in Microsoft's presentation. a few things were pretty interesting though ultimately i thought based on their demonstration, that with just an hour of your time they can show you how well they can rip their company apart... seriously the media and spectators are just having a frenzy out of this reveal, even the xbox community.
however, I hope with the clock speeds and GPU left out they can make some sort of increase based on loose figure translations. but as it stands VG247 was dead on and Microsoft made an obvious pause for 3 months kicking them selves over the leaks.
They said they will have 15 games in development 8 of which are new IPs but I don't recall seeing anything specifically Kinect related......... Kinda curious what that was about.
Those haven't all been confirmed as launch games. Destiny is 2014, isn't it?
Oops.. Yeah, you're right. Maybe I should just change that to Xbox One games & not specifically launch. BTW, I also think the EA Sports titles are supposed to be launched within a year. Considering they were all pre-rendered it don't surprise me.
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Yeah, I'm thinking they only wanted to show core games today. I suspected Kinect & other 1st party titles would be better suited at E3.
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Well, that didn't happen yesterday but maybe it'll happen on Build. Mary Jo Foley from ZDNet is reporting that "However, Microsoft didn't say anything about the developer story for Xbox One today, presumably because that is going to be a big part of the messaging at the company's Build 2013 conference at the end of June."
Meaning, the Build could be split between Windows 8, Windows Phone and Xbox One (+ Azure) development.
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