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And why would people buy an Atari-branded emulator machine for $40 if they can probably just buy a raspberry and download a SD card image that already has emulators and games in it?
How many little emulator boxes will that niche market take until it's saturated and people just don't find it fun anymore to have a mini-NES + mini-SNES + mini-NeoGeo + mini-MasterSystem + mini-MegaDrive + mini-MegaCD + mini-commodore64 with all their power and HDMI cables tangling up in the back of their TVs, where they have to manually switch the HDMI cable because their TV only has 4 inputs?
It's good that Atari didn't try to copy Nintendo at mini-ing the old Atari, because Atari isn't Nintendo (i.e. they don't have a super-loyal fanbase of ~5 million followers).
They're doing what a Steam Machine should have been from the start (cheap and small but compatible), and AFAIR lots of people were looking up to those. Right until we found out OEMs were taking premiums for those Windows-less PCs instead of making them cheaper.
How many little emulator boxes will that niche market take until it's saturated and people just don't find it fun anymore to have a mini-NES + mini-SNES + mini-NeoGeo + mini-MasterSystem + mini-MegaDrive + mini-MegaCD + mini-commodore64 with all their power and HDMI cables tangling up in the back of their TVs, where they have to manually switch the HDMI cable because their TV only has 4 inputs?
It's good that Atari didn't try to copy Nintendo at mini-ing the old Atari, because Atari isn't Nintendo (i.e. they don't have a super-loyal fanbase of ~5 million followers).
They're doing what a Steam Machine should have been from the start (cheap and small but compatible), and AFAIR lots of people were looking up to those. Right until we found out OEMs were taking premiums for those Windows-less PCs instead of making them cheaper.
Since that's an abbreviation of "would have", it's still a thousand times better than "would of", which is ridiculous IMHO. "Would of" is really just terrible grammar and laziness at the same time. Lazy people can simply write "would've" and it's just as fast to write.
That's why I added games from their 400/800 computers. I don't recall much about them though.
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The same reason that people buy routers with a built in firewall instead of getting a cheap switch, a raspberry and sticking an easy to use Linux distro with a much better and more capable firewall (with or without routing software) on it.
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The question of how many little boxes with their cables can people put next to their TVs still stands, and so does the question of whether Atari can gather enough clients for their retro machine to make it profitable.
The thing about setting up a rasp is purely because the market of Atari fans and rasp DIYs might overlap.
I think you are right.
Why would they buy a small NES emulator with a limited selection of games for $60 when they could grab a Pi and emulator and all the games?
Not everyone is a geek,nerd, engineer. In my case I would use my pc or my smartphone(I still play N64 and GB games on mine)
LOL. My bad. I should of caught that mistake.
And you did again haha! Should be "should have caught".
Did you both miss my ironic, rhetorical argument against ToTTenTranz's position?
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Looking at a general list of console sales, Nintendo has sold over 750 million consoles worldwide among 10 different consoles sold, and their latest proven success was the 3DS (still being sold today) with almost 70 million lifetime sales.
Atari had one successful console with the 2600 about 40 years ago, followed by a series of failures selling less than a million units for the most part. When Infogrames bought them after being brought down by the competition, the brand was used for a series of games that didn't really
Atari is smart in acknowledging they don't have even a tiny fraction of Nintendo's fanbase, loyalty and brand projection. If the mini-NES ever gets to around 4 million units, there's little reason for Atari to believe they'd get much more than 100k orders.
That could still be profitable as pretty much any SoC nowadays can emulate all Atari games, but it wasn't going to put Atari back in the market.
With this new Atari having a e.g. 35W Raven Ridge capable of playing games at XBone quality for $300, not only are they offering a great value proposition but they also have a much higher ASP that empowers the brand.
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LOL. It was intentionaL and an attempt at humor.
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IndieGoGo campaign if you feel like throwing away a few hundred bucks.
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/...ium=email&utm_campaign=bck-05312018hardware#/
First hardware Q2 2019. Runs Linux.
Specification* Measurement
Operating System : Linux OS based on Ubuntu (Linux Kernel 4.10) Power
Low TDP architecture - Less Heat & Noise
Connections : HDMI 2.0, 2.4/5GHz Wi-Fi, Bluetooth 5.0, Gigabit Ethernet, 4xUSB 3.0
External Inputs : Classic Joystick, Modern Controller, Microphone
Storage : 32GB eMMC, external HD, SD card
RAM : 4GB DDR4 RAM
Memory : 32GB eMMC
CPU : Bristol Ridge A10
GPU : Radeon R7
You too can enjoy the likes of Witcher 3 at 720p. In 2019. If they actually deliver hardware without going under. Again.
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/...ium=email&utm_campaign=bck-05312018hardware#/
First hardware Q2 2019. Runs Linux.
Specification* Measurement
Operating System : Linux OS based on Ubuntu (Linux Kernel 4.10) Power
Low TDP architecture - Less Heat & Noise
Connections : HDMI 2.0, 2.4/5GHz Wi-Fi, Bluetooth 5.0, Gigabit Ethernet, 4xUSB 3.0
External Inputs : Classic Joystick, Modern Controller, Microphone
Storage : 32GB eMMC, external HD, SD card
RAM : 4GB DDR4 RAM
Memory : 32GB eMMC
CPU : Bristol Ridge A10
GPU : Radeon R7
You too can enjoy the likes of Witcher 3 at 720p. In 2019. If they actually deliver hardware without going under. Again.
But why?
Because they can get money from venture capitalists and buy fancy cars without doing an real work - that's my understanding of this clearly doomed creations.
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Bristol Ridge in this Atari was known for a while, and it could make sense if it released right now.
But in mid 2019 we'll have 7nm Picasso, Raven Ridge will be last-year tech and Bristol Ridge will be really old tech.
But in mid 2019 we'll have 7nm Picasso, Raven Ridge will be last-year tech and Bristol Ridge will be really old tech.
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Presumably they are trying to hit a specific price point for profit reasons. When you compare price to performance, older is invariably better when it's on a last generation fab which there are lots of and will have a lot of capacity. Mature tech on mature fabs = super cheap.
I had the original wood-panel effect VCS but have zero interest in this.