How does the fact that GoW was released simultaneously on all territories and FF12 in US affects the US sales?, also I'm sure you have generated interesting formula which outlines that selling a title for 6 year old hardware with 40+million units is tougher than for 1 year old with 4-6 million units, hey I dunno could be true :smile:
I'll buy and then sell it to you for a mere $2000. Cash upfront.
Seriously, it's annoying (and silly) that we have 10 or so display spaces set aside for games for a system for which the user base in our community is approximately zero.
I'll buy and then sell it to you for a mere $2000. Cash upfront.
Seriously, it's annoying (and silly) that we have 10 or so display spaces set aside for games for a system for which the user base in our community is approximately zero.
The thing just launched, of course the userbase in your community is approximately zero. Sounds to me like you're just bitter for your own reasons, such as "stuffing PS3's in the display case"... The userbase won't remain zero for very long, so what's the problem?
Thats because we are comparing the recent monthly sales. FF12's total monthly sales are divided.
It was released on Oct31 in the US and the monthly sales of that time express only the fresh interest of US gamers only. Japanese market performance is toned down during Octomber because it was released long before the US. It was selling faster in Japan during their release period. Also its not even released in EU.
$2000? You are forcing me to sell my body here. No way. Well if thats how you want it stay with your burden
I didnt quite get whats going on though. Is the problem limited demand, the shortages or a combination of both?
I'm sorry but I still fail to understand what is the point. How does the U.S sales of Gears express something else than U.S interests? Why do we even need to mention other markets when we are talking about U.S numbers?
Clearly, much of the initial demand was from ebayers who wanted to flip the console for profit. They've found that the number of people willing to pay $1,000+ for a game console is even more limited then the number willing to pay $600 for one.
That being said, they'd still have sold out all they've made even if only actual gamers were buying. If they'd actually hit their forecasted production they'd have sold all of them, too. I don't quite understand why.
I have some puzzlement about why anyone wants the ps3 as a games machine right this second:
- The games selection is limited.
- Of that limited selection, many are available on other systems.
- Of those available on other systems, they'll look the same or even better on that other system.
- The one standout exclusive, Resistance, get kicked in the shins by Gears. (Or so I've gathered... never played either myself.)
- The cost of the x360 premium system plus Gears is less then the cost of the lower end ps3 system alone.
- For $600, you can build a good gaming pc.
I can find only one good reason for getting a ps3 right now:
- It's an awesome Blu-ray player... possibly the best one for the lowest price.
I hope people notice the strong emphasis I've made on "right now". The ps3 is going to be a fine console sometime next year after the price drops and there's a collection of decent games available. Why anyone is in a hurry to get one right now is a mystery. If money's no object then fine, get one. Otherwise, not so fine.
If anyone can explain to me what makes the ps3 worth five or six Benjamins right now, I'd appreciate it.
Thanks for the reply :smile:
Just out of curiosity, who dictates the shelf space for PS3 games then, your managers? If so, why don't they just dedicate the space to games you say "will sell"?
If somehow Sony dictates how much space you need to dedicate to PS3, do they not give incentives? I would have thought a store wouldn't bother dedicating shelf space to something that doesn't sell unless it was being influenced quite heavily from the-powers-that-be...
When the ps3 was launched, we got a long packet of information. (Which factors in with my "ps3 isn't worth the trouble" idea.) They mentioned that they want people to start to think of Walmart as the place to go for the latest goods. In the same info packet, they said to direct people to the Xbox 360 since we wouldn't have enough ps3's to go around. (Which factors into my "this is more amusing then a barrel full of monkeys" response.)
Shoot, I'm rambling again... anyways, point is Walmart will stock it because it's the latest thing in consoles and the sucessor to the best selling console of all time. People understand when we say, "We don't have any consoles and don't know when we'll get some because Sony can't build the console they designed" because they already know it's in short supply.
We'd be met with incredulity if we said, "We're not offering them at all." And what are they chances they'd later go to a Walmart if they want, say, a new hdtv or an ipod?
ZoinKs! I thought Walmart has centralized purchasing. The allotment is also decided at HQ. Am I correct ? If so, your purchaser will probably have Walmart specific reasons and numbers to justify for stocking PS3.
As for why people buy PS3, the demand has been cultivated over the months and years. People buy stuff looking at the total package (not just individual bullet points).
Nesh, a number of those reasons, such as games coming soon and expectations of improvement, fail the right now parameter. Also, I'd had in mind (but not mentioned in text, my bad) that I was talking about someone who knows enough about the consoles to make informed decisions about them without succumbing to hype or advertising.
But I think you're right... those things you listed all factor in.
I guess what I really want is someone who's spent or is planning to spend the money on the ps3 to point out some specific thing and say, "That's what made it worth it and here's why I couldn't wait."
At these prices, we're basically talking about a luxury good. I suspect that rationality and need aren't the driving forces here. I know if I had the money for it, I'd build an uber pc that'd run every game at 2560x1600 with maxed aa. Rationally, I don't need a system like that but I'd still want one.