More Delay Talk 2/27

All this no-news is getting tiring. Show something soon or announce the delay already, my hype for the PS3 is almost completely dead atm, and I know several others that feel the same.
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Avon_Implosion said:
whats going on with this Devstation event? isn't that revovling solely around the PS3?
Apparently nothing's involving PS3!

DevStation had PS3 stuff, maybe all PS3. But that's programming stuff etc. for devs already in the know. Won't be anything from that for the public to dissect, analyse, quote, misquote, misunderstand, misrepresent, bicker over, and the usual...
 
what do you think of this comment i've find here (http://www.joystiq.com/2006/03/02/ps3-is-a-no-show-at-sonys-playstation-event/) :

16. I have a feeling the PS3 launch date has never been pushed back, but rather has repediddly failed to be pushed forward to the new time they need it out.

Sony is riding high on the PS2, it is a Huge cash cow for them with great returns and minimal investment at this point. Sony understood this and drove to get as much life out of the PS2 as possible, makes sence so far.

Part of the plan for keeping the PS2's life as long as possible was the time to introduce the PS3,which Sony now says is spring, but I believe was originoally early 2007 for Japan/Holliday season for the US. This plan would serve many murposes: it would keep the PS2 around for as long as possible, It would give plenty of time for the final PS3 hardware to be Finalised, which would mean developers had longer periods of time to work on titles with final/near final dev kits. It would aslo give them the time for the main (expensive) components (Blu-Ray and to a lesser extent Cell) to have already started production for their various oher uses and would allow for both higher quality, greater yealds, and the price to come down due to the increacing economies of scale.

This was a good plan, even knowing that their compettitors were going to do anything necessary not to launch a year behind as they did before. I suspect that Nintendo's late 2006 launch was in line with what they were expexting (though nintendo may have moved earlier in responce to microsoft) Microsoft on the otherhand faces the opposite of sony's situstion and saught to cut their losses early and intro the 360 AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

This Huge gamble bairely came off (as can be seen by perhaps the greatest launch console shotrage in history) but in real terms it has succeded. Sony now, and to a lesser extent nintendo, have to rush to market. Nintendo seems on track for their launch but sony's business model for 2005-2007 had to drastically change so that the PS3 would succede.I feel that the sucess of the 360 puts immense time pressure on sony to instantally put out a console that wasn;t even supposed to come out this year, but now it almost has to or their market share will REALLY start to go. So sony is doing everything they can to enable a speedy release. In this way the PS3 release date has essentally become
the same as software "When it's ready" Sony will start shipping them as soon as they possibly can, and until then will keep saying that it will be coming "In a few months" or" "Q2" while showing all the visually stunning demos they possibly can to keep you away from the 360 while you wait for the PS3.

And remember THIS HAS HAPPENED BEFORE back in the early 90s the NES is what the PS2 is now a hufe cash cow for Nintendo and they wanted to milk it as
long as they could. But then the Genesis came out and started stealing market share form Nin until they finally fought back with the SNES. Even then at the end the Genesis outsold the SNES in the US.

Sony knows this and are theirfore doing everything in their power to get out a real unit for consumers. Microsoft's WAY early launch changed everything for Sony. The PS3 is WAY overbuilt for 2005/2006 but not so much for 2007. THe PS3 will be
CRAZY EXPENSIVE in 2006 but probrably will be at least reasonably priced in 2007. and In 2007 will be the release date for all the GREAT games that couldn't come out in 2006 because all the developers were working on PS2 games then.

This also would explain why all we have seen of the PS3 is a "concept design". Sony got word that MS was gonna ubveil the 360 at E3 and so they had to put something together in order to maintain intrest and not concede the whole show, and buzz that came with it, to MS. Nintendo is in a similar situation
too (Never been shown what the OFFICIAL FINAL REV even looks like, much less does) but is in a safer spot having not built a maciene that is very hard and prohibitively expensive to produce at the currant time.

Microsoft threw a wrench into sony;s gears and it seems to be working for now. I feel weather sony launches now or later wo't have much of an impact, what will REALLY matter is Getting it out before christmass in US ( Even if only i n limited quantaties) and MOST IMPORTANT OF ALL AT A REASONABLE PRICE suer all of you reading this will pay whatever it takes but the mass market won't. the Single most important thing you have to do to get 3rd parties tp make games for your system. The XBOX or GC could levetate in mid air and do half the programming themselves, but the PS2 sold 100 million units so that is where most of the games will be no matter how hard it is to develop for. If PS3 launches for less more than $500 I consider it dead. not dead in the technical sence, but dead in the battle for market share and dead as sony's cash cow. In the end the only constant that you can allways compete on is price and that may be sony's downfall. (but hopefully won't be)

i don't agree on the price Sony in the end will never release the PS3 at 500$.
But this make a lot of sense in regard of RSX and other things.
 
Lay off the hatorade people. Spring haven\'t even started!

Sony could throw a million dollars party with movie stars, rappers, booze, blue neon lights, loud music and PDZ: Wallguy-II, or they could play it like Sony. A bi-spectacle Ken Kutaragi-san stepping on stage in polo-tee jacket and pants giving a boring speech about transistors and compute. Boring engineer takes on cool shaven head dude in sweatsuit oh so casually sitting on the floor. Who won? :D

PS3 will be out before Spring 2006.
PS3 will be out in the US before 2006.
The news will hit when its time. The time for *bots armageddon is near.
 
tema said:
Lay off the hatorade people. Spring haven\'t even started!

Sony could throw a million dollars party with movie stars, rappers, booze, blue neon lights, loud music and PDZ: Wallguy-II, or they could play it like Sony. A bi-spectacle Ken Kutaragi-san stepping on stage in polo-tee jacket and pants giving a boring speech about transistors and compute. Boring engineer takes on cool shaven head dude in sweatsuit oh so casually sitting on the floor. Who won? :D

PS3 will be out before Spring 2006.
PS3 will be out in the US before 2006.
The news will hit when its time. The time for *bots armageddon is near.

no hate; just speculation and observation

lay off the drama. ;)
 
Shifty Geezer said:
Apparently nothing's involving PS3!

DevStation had PS3 stuff, maybe all PS3.

It was all PS3, to be clear.

But of course, we're not going to see anything from it. We knew right from the start it was a dev-only thing.
 
actually i'm sure that Sony can throw millions.
And MS can throw billions.
Anyway, i hope Sony will not do a N64 kind of stuff, late, late, late....
the ps2 release date was known At tgs (early 1999), it was 4 march 2000 in Japan.
It seems that that time they prefer secret lol.
As said in another thread, Sony is not late, MS came very early and with a machine nearly as good. Sony attitude looks more like damage control, but it's no brainer that Sony will keep his crown for that round.
Scary ;) no, Ms just wants to gain more market share.
How more years Sony will succeed is a more interesting question?(next next-gen lol)
Especialy when you hear Bill Gate says that if they lose they will play again, and adding the fact that Xbox360 have a lot of chance to be succesfull in "growing market share" ms stategy.
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Exactly. MS is a long term player in this market. They're just trying to build their marketshare/mindshare this generation without losing too much money. They know that if casual gamers ever think of Xbox and PS as equivalent value then they can force Sony into a price war they can't hope to win. MS can't compete on price until the Xbox brand is as strong as the PS brand.
 
Johnny Awesome said:
Exactly. MS is a long term player in this market. They're just trying to build their marketshare/mindshare this generation without losing too much money. They know that if casual gamers ever think of Xbox and PS as equivalent value then they can force Sony into a price war they can't hope to win. MS can't compete on price until the Xbox brand is as strong as the PS brand.

Actually this time around I am sure they want to make some money, atleast a couple of years after launch. If they can expand their marketshare even better...
 
tema said:
Lay off the hatorade people. Spring haven\'t even started!

Sony could throw a million dollars party with movie stars, rappers, booze, blue neon lights, loud music and PDZ: Wallguy-II, or they could play it like Sony. A bi-spectacle Ken Kutaragi-san stepping on stage in polo-tee jacket and pants giving a boring speech about transistors and compute. Boring engineer takes on cool shaven head dude in sweatsuit oh so casually sitting on the floor. Who won? :D

PS3 will be out before Spring 2006.
PS3 will be out in the US before 2006.
The news will hit when its time. The time for *bots armageddon is near.

are you kuturagi in disguise?
:LOL:

when starts spring where you lives?
 
Platon said:
Isn't spring March, April and May?...
Astronomically, it begins with the spring equinox (around March 21 in the Northern Hemisphere, and September 23 in the Southern Hemisphere), and ends with the summer solstice June 21 (around in the Northern Hemisphere and December 21 in the Southern Hemisphere).

In meteorology, it is by convention instead counted as the whole months of March, April, and May in the Northern Hemisphere and September, October, and November in the Southern Hemisphere. However, in the Irish Calendar it is counted as the whole months of February, March and April.

so technically they have until december 21st. ;)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spring_%28season%29
 
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