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Upconverting video to hd resolution while your cell processor is not in use.

WTH, do these guys have a clue of what people want to do with their machines.
 
Well, thats just another reason to buy it, cause it's so much more for your money spent...

I have 4 memorycards that will fit with PS3 :)

Cant wait to see my pics taken with Digital Rebel/350D on my HDTV in 1080p

And to upsample my old moveis?

Thats great!

The need for a regular PC keeps getting smaller...
 
Fredag said:
The need for a regular PC keeps getting smaller...

Wasn't the main criticism of the Xbox that it was a "cut down PC"?

I personally hope the PS3 is a kick-ass gaming machine. Anything else I don't care about, since I have my PC for everything else. I will always need my PC over a console, since I can do word processing, email, surf the net, work, etc much more easily than a console ever could.

I just hope Sony (and MS) keep this in mind.
 
Well its a computer for "entertainment" ;)

Unless someone makes a game that invloves typing/word processing.........


Oh wait, they did! Typing of the Dead....same deal I guess.

Well they can call it whatever they want, playing games is what most of us will be using it for anyways. Though it wouldn't hurt to tinker with the other functions.
 
Fredag said:
Well, thats just another reason to buy it, cause it's so much more for your money spent...

I have 4 memorycards that will fit with PS3 :)

Cant wait to see my pics taken with Digital Rebel/350D on my HDTV in 1080p

And to upsample my old moveis?

Thats great!

The need for a regular PC keeps getting smaller...
Do you really think the quality of that conversion will be any good. Have they figured some new technique that will be able to create pixels that aren't in the original.
 
Idiot. 99% of the time people will be using their PS3 for games.

Have they figured some new technique that will be able to create pixels that aren't in the original.

Exactly. wtf? is this some kind of joke?
 
Ever used a photo program with a sizing algorithm like bi-cubic sampling? I've often enlarged photos using that technique that reduces effective pixel size and it has the effect of reducing artifacts when i sharpen it at the higher resolution rather than sharpening at the lower.
 
PARANOiA said:
Wasn't the main criticism of the Xbox that it was a "cut down PC"?
Not really. I mean, all consoles are simply dedicated computers. The main PC-comparison criticism would come from the gaming end, not the structure of the machine.

I mean, except with people just looking for something to bitch about. :p
 
Tacitblue said:
Ever used a photo program with a sizing algorithm like bi-cubic sampling? I've often enlarged photos using that technique that reduces effective pixel size and it has the effect of reducing artifacts when i sharpen it at the higher resolution rather than sharpening at the lower.
You're lucky because whenever I did that in photoshop it turn out looking worse than the original.
 
Intel is actually pushing super resolution for video ... it can eat cycles quite efficiently.

It is quite probably the only reasonable way to use Cell in a TV I guess.
 
I welcome a game console that fits neatly into my AV setup and can also download music, stream movies, connect to my camcorder, etc., all with the push-button simplicity and elegance of an AV-style UI--as long as it's still a kick-ass game console (which the PS3 is guaranteed to be).

I know a PC can do many of the AV duties I want, but the last thing I want to see in my living room is a PC GUI.
 
phat said:
I welcome a game console that fits neatly into my AV setup and can also download music, stream movies, connect to my camcorder, etc., all with the push-button simplicity and elegance of an AV-style UI--as long as it's still a kick-ass game console (which the PS3 is guaranteed to be).

I know a PC can do many of the AV duties I want, but the last thing I want to see in my living room is a PC GUI.

ah u must have the x360 preordered ;)
 
ralexand said:
Tacitblue said:
Ever used a photo program with a sizing algorithm like bi-cubic sampling? I've often enlarged photos using that technique that reduces effective pixel size and it has the effect of reducing artifacts when i sharpen it at the higher resolution rather than sharpening at the lower.
You're lucky because whenever I did that in photoshop it turn out looking worse than the original.
If you upscale pixels, you get blocky images. If you use bilinear/bicubic sampling, you get blurred pixels. Not as bad as blocky, but not great. There are lots of other more complicated algorithms, such as using fractals, that produce much better results, but you need a lot of power to do them in real-time.

You can't zoom in indefinitely and get clear detail, but upscaling a TV picture you'll get much better quality from a powerful algorithm then simply scaling pixels.

The PS3 is a collection of programmable hardware. It can be used for games. That same hardware can be used for other things besides games when your not playing games - all you need is the interchangeable software. Can't see why people have a problem with that :?
 
Shifty Geezer said:
ralexand said:
Tacitblue said:
Ever used a photo program with a sizing algorithm like bi-cubic sampling? I've often enlarged photos using that technique that reduces effective pixel size and it has the effect of reducing artifacts when i sharpen it at the higher resolution rather than sharpening at the lower.
You're lucky because whenever I did that in photoshop it turn out looking worse than the original.
If you upscale pixels, you get blocky images. If you use bilinear/bicubic sampling, you get blurred pixels. Not as bad as blocky, but not great. There are lots of other more complicated algorithms, such as using fractals, that produce much better results, but you need a lot of power to do them in real-time.

You can't zoom in indefinitely and get clear detail, but upscaling a TV picture you'll get much better quality from a powerful algorithm then simply scaling pixels.

The PS3 is a collection of programmable hardware. It can be used for games. That same hardware can be used for other things besides games when your not playing games - all you need is the interchangeable software. Can't see why people have a problem with that :?

Me neither.
 
Well sometimes the difference between images that have gone through the Wega Engine or Philip's Pixel Plus technology or many other similar technologies and non-enhanced images is quite striking.

I can only imagine what those technologies could do with a processor with the computational power of Cell. Obviously, a crappy signal can only be enhanced so much, but then HD material will have to be enhanced one day, so it's a whole new level.

One question, what kind of processors do these technologies use? Cause sometimes they really work miracles...
 
london-boy said:
Well sometimes the difference between images that have gone through the Wega Engine or Philip's Pixel Plus technology or many other similar technologies and non-enhanced images is quite striking.

I can only imagine what those technologies could do with a processor with the computational power of Cell. Obviously, a crappy signal can only be enhanced so much, but then HD material will have to be enhanced one day, so it's a whole new level.

One question, what kind of processors do these technologies use? Cause sometimes they really work miracles...
I don't see how processor matters as much as algorthm in that case since this stuff doesn't have to take place in realtime.
 
ralexand said:
london-boy said:
Well sometimes the difference between images that have gone through the Wega Engine or Philip's Pixel Plus technology or many other similar technologies and non-enhanced images is quite striking.

I can only imagine what those technologies could do with a processor with the computational power of Cell. Obviously, a crappy signal can only be enhanced so much, but then HD material will have to be enhanced one day, so it's a whole new level.

One question, what kind of processors do these technologies use? Cause sometimes they really work miracles...
I don't see how processor matters as much as algorthm in that case since this stuff doesn't have to take place in realtime.

What stuff are you talking about?
I'm talking about the processing in use in expensive TVs. And that not only needs to be real-time, but also VERY fast, since it works on realtime TV programs (or any other source, like DVDs or games)
 
Huh? Why don't these have to happen in realtime? You got to upsample the image in 1/60th second, ever frame. Complicated algorithms are going to need powerful processors to manage it in that time. I don't think my AthlonXP 2500 can even bilinear resample a 720p to 1080p image in 1/60th of a second, let alone perform fractal calculations in that time.
 
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