Killzone 2 pre-release discussion thread

Gamespot Hands-On
http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/killzone2/news.html?sid=6201940&tag=topslot;thumb;1

"Finally, with this being Killzone 2, we would be remiss if we didn't mention the graphics--or more specifically, how awesome they are. It wouldn't be much of a stretch to say Killzone 2 is the best-looking console game we've seen"

 

KZ2 is about as much or more of a upgrade from 'the best' of whats come previous as any game this generation was after CoD2 started it all.

It does everything (modelling/lighting/shadowing/IQ/textures) any other game does without any noticeable shortcomings others suffer, throws around dozens more lights for kicks, and then it adds the post-processing as the icing on the top.

I think its disingenious to even have to claim that other console games are really in the same realm. Its not a fair appraisal of the game, more a statement of moderation people feel obligated to give.

IMO, of course.

 

Thats pretty standard in games minus the amount of lightsources. it all comes down to how its used and what type aswell as scope.

 

It's 720p

here is the link to the tech interview: http://www.gametrailers.com/player/43389.html

 

Jesus Christ, I am running out of words to describe the game.

I'll probably get the Limited Edition version. Never done that before. I better reserve early or they might be gone.

The gameplay, AI and physics portion were well received too. The visuals here are like artwork.

 

You're right. While KZ2 doesn't have the best modelling, lighting, shadowing, IQ or textures, it’s very consistent all round and doesn’t fall too short in any of those areas.

 

That is what one of the devs said, but it sounds like 960x1080 to me.

 

Thanks for the info

 

Didn't you just contradict yourself

 

I have not watched the tech interview on Games Trailer yet but this post impressed the hell out of me:
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1245313&postcount=895

Specifically..

Being a gameplay guy, I give extra credits for...

They also added 7.1 sound and dynamic music to match the player's experiences. I am very glad they take advantage of motion control too.

There is no install for this game. Are they shooting for no loading ?

EDIT:

Tech Interview on gametrailers.com

[gt]43389[/gt]

Art & Audio Interview...

[gt]43392[/gt]

 

It really isn't. The difference in lighting and shadowing alone from the two games usually thought to be contesting 'best console graphics' is staggering.

Gears of War 2 and Uncharted look absolutely nowhere near KZ2, nor are they even consistent in visual quality through-out. Great looking? Yes.
But if you saw KZ2 look like this:

Or this:


There would be outright mockery on every forum for lighting, texturing, shadowing, modelling - you name it.
Neither of those games pull off top marks in every area of graphical competence, neither of those games is even graphically consistent throughout the whole campaign.

Killzone stands with them and any other game in every possible area, and so far throughout every level we've seen. And it does that with far more lights (as you noted) and unparalled image quality.

It is not 'amongst the best', it is 'the best' looking console game as far as we can ever make that distinction objectively.

 

I disagree, Killzone2 is far more than just insane amount of lightsources. What it seperates itself from the crowd is Deffered rendering + AA, very sophisticated shadow system, the dense persistent particles, fancy motion blur and ultra realistic animation. So please tell me since when all these have become the standard in gaming?

 

I'd struggle to give that accolade to anything other than Gran Turismo personally.

KZ2 has backed itself into a corner where anything less than perfect is going to be a letdown. It can't get away with the occasional graphical slip up in the same way that other games can. That's the bed GG have made for themselves, and they'll have to lie in it.

To be fair to them, it looks like they are laying in it from what we've seen, and they look pretty warm and comfortable too. I just hope they don't forget the gameplay.

 

Shifty try with this video, in the begining look at the shadows from soldiers that receives the weapon:

http://www.playfrance.com/news-ps3-killzone-2-un-assaut-helghast-246109.html

By the way this site´s videos are great. For me the best is this:

http://www.playfrance.com/news-ps3-killzone-2-un-pont-bien-garde-457112.html

 

IGN Podcast Beyond ep71
http://uk.ps3.ign.com/articles/935/935659p1.html

They talked about KZ2 impressions from their visit in Amsterdamn, when they played the latest version of KZ2 [more advanced than this Preview Code].

 

Maybe if you're operating under the predisposition that I'm trying to quell Killzone 2's graphical prowess by rationalizing what is onscreen. In short, no.

 

In the interview the GG guy said that each SPE used about 60 percent of its resources to prevent frame drops. I'm curious does this mean that the load was put on the six SPE's to prevent the frame drops or that if there was above 60 percent utilisation it would cause frame drops (lack of bandwidth DMA or RSX feeds?).

I was also intrested to note just how much of the graphical prowess they have managed to put onto the SPE's. Since 2005 there has been speculation to how much SPE's could help with graphics and the amount of things it is doing, partical effects, post processing etc, seems that the original vision of Cell+RSX working to create a tech engine that could handle superb graphics, physics and art style seem to be vindicated somewhat.

 

I hope I didn't miss a post, so KZ II got a release date:
the february 27th in US !!

 

I think you are getting a bit ahead. Take a closer look at KZ2.

http://media.ps3.ign.com/media/748/748475/imgs_1.html

 

From the Gamespy interview:

I like especially the second bolded section.