John Carmack interview talks PS3 & X360
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silhouette said:Not for Amiga... I am sure of that.. Even Doom comes much later to Amiga than most of the machines listed there
You're saying they haven't released any games on the Amiga platform but then say DOOM was released for the Amiga later than all the other platforms. ??
Anyway, they have indeed released for the Amiga and also the Apple II which I forgot to include in that listing.
Nesh said:He worked on the Sega Saturn which was harder to develop on and theoritically more powerful but not on the easier to develop for and more convenient PS1?
It kind of contradicts the reason he stated why he chose XBOX360
He's not saying that he won't work on other systems, he is simply saying that he is using the 360 as the base platform, and will port to other systems from there.
He worked on the Saturn, but his primary development platform was the PC.
Reverend said:
What specifically about the console industry precludes JCs experience in 3D game development/innovation from being relevant?
From what I remember, Itagaki made very similar comments regarding power/ease of development, almost validating Carmack (or is it vice-versa
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Guys trying to seperate waters. Truth is Carmack is the best individual at what he does, and there's no difference in consoles vs pcs.
Hardware is Hardware.
Hardware is Hardware.
regarding the Amiga:
ID NEVER released DOOM for it:
"Christmas 1997: ID releases the source for Doom. Within a week there are
three Amiga versions, and they're already extremely impressive. Now we
know what all the fuss was about. Peter McGavin's ADoom, arguably the best
overall version takes an early lead in the "usenet cred" stakes, but is
shortly challenged, atleast for 030 users in terms of sheer speed, by
Georg Steger's DoomAttack. The developments continue apace, and sound,
joypad, network and TCP support are all forthcoming.
"
ID NEVER released DOOM for it:
"Christmas 1997: ID releases the source for Doom. Within a week there are
three Amiga versions, and they're already extremely impressive. Now we
know what all the fuss was about. Peter McGavin's ADoom, arguably the best
overall version takes an early lead in the "usenet cred" stakes, but is
shortly challenged, atleast for 030 users in terms of sheer speed, by
Georg Steger's DoomAttack. The developments continue apace, and sound,
joypad, network and TCP support are all forthcoming.
"
I never cared about the "John CramaK Said..." debates but...
Who said Carmack was the best engineer for all what's real time 3D rendering and game programming?
And who said there's no architectural differences, on a hardware and software level, between a PC and a Console?
BTW, and somehow OT, I really hope that JC stops videogames once for all, as he said he would, and just keeps working on his spacecraft toys X-Prize whatever.
I mean his opinions already wasted, for me, tons and tons of threads on PC forums, and now it seems that he decided to port the "John Cramak Said... Forum Engine" to the Console Forums... Damn him!
No offenses, but I have to ask... You're kidding, don't you?therealskywolf said:
Who said Carmack was the best engineer for all what's real time 3D rendering and game programming?
And who said there's no architectural differences, on a hardware and software level, between a PC and a Console?
BTW, and somehow OT, I really hope that JC stops videogames once for all, as he said he would, and just keeps working on his spacecraft toys X-Prize whatever.
I mean his opinions already wasted, for me, tons and tons of threads on PC forums, and now it seems that he decided to port the "John Cramak Said... Forum Engine" to the Console Forums... Damn him!
This sources seem to contradict that newsgroup posting?
http://games.ign.com/objects/025/025086.html
http://idm.gesies.com/deta_games.asp?ID_GAME=15
Though this one supports it:
http://www.faqs.org/faqs/amiga/games-FAQ/
But see this Amiga review of Quake:
http://www.classicgaming.com/amigareviews/quake1.htm
http://games.ign.com/objects/025/025086.html
http://idm.gesies.com/deta_games.asp?ID_GAME=15
Though this one supports it:
http://www.faqs.org/faqs/amiga/games-FAQ/
But see this Amiga review of Quake:
http://www.classicgaming.com/amigareviews/quake1.htm
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Whenever a developer says something, their seems to be alot of discussion over whether or not we should be taking any notice of what that developer has to say, rather than what the developer has said. Unless somone has a serious lack of credebuility, lets say a reputation for spreading FUD or PR filth, then I find attacking somone's background rather than what they have said to be nonsensical.
I think, generally speaking, when somone starts trying to debunk a persons statements by discrediting them, it shows they don't have a convinceing argument against what that person said.
I think, generally speaking, when somone starts trying to debunk a persons statements by discrediting them, it shows they don't have a convinceing argument against what that person said.
I ll ask a different question.If there is no difference between platforms why does he make a distinction?Why do people discuss differences in arcitecture?Why some choose platforms over another platform?How does PC's faster evolultion affect development and tools and how that differs in consoles?expletive said:
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Nesh said:I ll ask a different question.If there is no difference between platforms why does he make a distinction?Why do people discuss differences in arcitecture?Why some choose platforms over another platform?How does PC's faster evolultion affect development and tools and how that differs in consoles?
Theres a list of obvious answers to those questions but i'd like ot hear why Carmack's prgramming experience makes him ill-qualified to comment on pc hardware but not console.
I see where youre going but I didnt make the statement, just asking someone to back up theirs, so the burden of proof is not on me.
J
Hmm...I am just assuming there so dont take me seriously.But I am assuming thats because his best and most reckognised work is on PC.If I am not mistaken he was never known for bringing as revolutionary or remarkably impressive work in the console scene.He is mostly known fir his work on PC's.But I could be wrong ofcourse.expletive said:Theres a list of obvious answers to those questions but i'd like ot hear why Carmack's prgramming experience makes him ill-qualified to comment on pc hardware but not console.
I see where youre going but I didnt make the statement, just asking someone to back up theirs, so the burden of proof is not on me.
J
He is probably for PC fans what Kojima, Yu Suzuki etc are for console fans.
