Is chess the next game to be banned in the USA?

bloodbob

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With the current laws suits over "Grand Theft Auto: Vice City" over the in game instruction "kill the Haitians" in reference to a Haitians mob I got me thinking will chess be next.

Why would chess be banned you ask because

White always makes the first move. It shows the clearly that the white team/race is given rights before the black team/race.

I ask you will the day come where chess is banned or laws are put in place forcing changes to the way the chess teams are named?
 
bloodbob said:
With the current laws suits over "Grand Theft Auto: Vice City" over the in game instruction "kill the Haitians" in reference to a Haitians mob I got me thinking will chess be next.

Maybe we'll ban squirt guns. Every child who uses a squirt gun is killing some one in their mind...

The first game was fine because we were only killing white people...

Why would chess be banned you ask because

I am wondering the same thing about Mark Twain books...if the NAACP wanted to thwart their own agendas why didn't they start by trying to ban all of Martin Luther King and slavery references in schools...that would have been quicker...but, to be fair, it was more than their idiocy which lead to such decisions.

White always makes the first move. It shows the clearly that the white team/race is given rights before the black team/race.

Heh, i missed this one. Clear evidence of racial bias. You should report this to NAACP.

I ask you will the day come where chess is banned or laws are put in place forcing changes to the way the chess teams are named?

I believe we should reverse the rule mentioned to make the game racially fair and propose reperations from the production companies who produce Chess games to african americans for promoting racial inequality. Only then can we call this a meaningless victory and the best solution to a nonproblem.

Blood, even you are showing your myopia and lack of tollerance in this thread. Think of it Bob you indifferent imbecile. King and Queen? Wtf? Why isn't there tolerance for sexual orientation and gender? Why can't i have King and King-2? Or King and transvestite Queen? Why are all the pieces men but the Queen? Why can't we have an all female board?

Please try and show more respect next time for other peoples' feelings...
 
White always makes the first move. It shows the clearly that the white team/race is given rights before the black team/race.

They should mixed the black and white, though it'll take just a little bit more concentration to play the game.
 
[I know i shouldnt take this seriously, but just to make some things clear...]

Well, the Queen is the most "powerful" piece in Chess, so that's sexual discrimination gone. While the King is completely useless (considering he's a freaking king).

Also, the fact that Whites start first doesn't really puts them in a position of advantage, in fact i almost always lose when i start (as white) for some reason.

The Whites start because it was decided like that. Big deal. If the Blacks started, the whites around the globe would be here saying this was an african game with racism towards white people...

You can never make everyone happy.
 
jvd said:
video games just need enforced rating systems just like movies do .

Umm since when don't they??? I'm assume your talking about rating for ages not for offending minority groups.

We do down under.

I don't like ours in australia as if the game isn't suitable for a minor then it is flat out banned.
 
london-boy said:
[I know i shouldnt take this seriously, but just to make some things clear...]

Well, the Queen is the most "powerful" piece in Chess, so that's sexual discrimination gone. While the King is completely useless (considering he's a freaking king).

Also, the fact that Whites start first doesn't really puts them in a position of advantage, in fact i almost always lose when i start (as white) for some reason.

The Whites start because it was decided like that. Big deal. If the Blacks started, the whites around the globe would be here saying this was an african game with racism towards white people...

You can never make everyone happy.

On what basis was it decided that white should start?

Hilter just decided that the future human race would be white blond blued and not jewish. Genocide happens because someone just decides they don't like a race.

Where did the name for the head of a commite come from they decided to call it chair man yet its still sexist.
 
well thats why i (in my immense wisdom) created the "Colloquial expressions" thread, which might seem stupid at first (and it is), but it is about these things...

oh i'm so wise :D
 
R we going to comment on the fact that Gandalf went from being The Grey to The White... I mean, it's a very Michael Jackson thing....

Darkness (and evil and all that is considered bad) is black. While "Good Things" almost always come in white...

And PCs have been white up until recently, when silver got stylish and black PCs got released.

And white clouds are pretty while black clouds bring rain (bad)...

How about Black Holes? They're not really black, they have no colour in reality, just because we see them as black we should call them Black Holes? it's politically incorrect!! :rolleyes: :LOL:

Come on this is ridiculous, we could go on and on and on...
 
bloodbob said:
jvd said:
video games just need enforced rating systems just like movies do .

Umm since when don't they??? I'm assume your talking about rating for ages not for offending minority groups.

We do down under.

I don't like ours in australia as if the game isn't suitable for a minor then it is flat out banned.
My cousin can go into best buy and buy a teen rated game and he is only 9 . He has done it before. He actually obuth bmx xxx for the gamecube . By him self with no parents. There are no laws against buying it. Its more of a guide than anything else .
 
bloodbob said:
Hitler just decided that the future human race would be white blond blued and not Jewish.

Not really true. Hitler wanted a pure gentile Europe, but he had no plans to colonize outlying areas with Germans - hell, he was allied with the non-white Japanese and also with the non-white Turks (secretly).
 
akira888 said:
bloodbob said:
Hitler just decided that the future human race would be white blond blued and not Jewish.

Not really true. Hitler wanted a pure gentile Europe, but he had no plans to colonize outlying areas with Germans - hell, he was allied with the non-white Japanese and also with the non-white Turks (secretly).
He was allied with the Soviets until that became inconenvient.
 
RussSchultz said:
akira888 said:
bloodbob said:
Hitler just decided that the future human race would be white blond blued and not Jewish.

Not really true. Hitler wanted a pure gentile Europe, but he had no plans to colonize outlying areas with Germans - hell, he was allied with the non-white Japanese and also with the non-white Turks (secretly).
He was allied with the Soviets until that became inconenvient.

Absolutely, a lot of people "forget" that. My point was that Hitler allied with non-Caucasian people when it suited his needs, like Turks (convertly, such as chromium sales that kept Hitler's industry churning) or Japanese (overtly). Russians are Caucasians, thusly I didn't include them.

The Thai were also Nazi allies under a pro-Japan military junta that ruled Bangkok at the time.
 
Hitler wasn't allied with the Turks. They there were some half-hearted tries but this time the Turks were smarter than in WW1. Turkey was sort of neutral in WW2, so neutral that it became a major playground for secret service spooks of all sides - and it stayed that way til well into the Cold War.

There were Nazi colonization plans - in the east. Two main tenets of Nazism were "Blood" and "Soil". Blood refers racial "purity" and "soil" to living space in the east. Conquer eastern Europe, get rid of the Jews, enslave the slavs.

According to Nazi ideology slavs are a "slave race", i.e. inferior but still worthy enough to be kept alive as uneducated, menial work force. That's why the SS murdered thousands of intellectuals, politicians, artists and clerics in eastern Europe.

Hitler's interest in areas outside of Europe was low. Germany only became involved in northern Africa because the Italians (who were trying to ressurect the glory of ancient Rome by conquering their own little mediterranean empire) fucked up. Same with Greece and the Balkans.

So what akira888 wrote is basically true. Racial purity was not something to be enforced on the whole human race but rather something that was supposed to be the norm in all areas that were supposed to become part of the Thousand Year Reich.

He was allied with the Soviets until that became inconenvient.
That was because Stalin was an idiot. There we had Hitler, raving like a lunatic about living space in the east, being completely staight forward about it and Stalin still believed it was nothing but tough talk.

The fact remains though that Nazi ideology never voiced even a smidgeon of interest on areas outside Europe. So it is unlikey that he would have turned on the Japanese. It was never part of Nazi ideology.
 
akira888 said:
My point was that Hitler allied with non-Caucasian people when it suited his needs, like Turks (convertly, such as chromium sales that kept Hitler's industry churning) or Japanese (overtly). Russians are Caucasians, thusly I didn't include them.

The classification "caucasian" did not exist in Nazi racist ideology. Colour of skin was more or less irrelevant when determining racial status. It was more of an ethnicity based thing. There was no fuzzy White Power Brotherhood of All White Men thing going on. You could be white as snow, wouldn't have saved you from being worked to death if you were a Slav.

A good many Jews were Caucasian because of decades of intermixing with non-semites. Hell, look at your average American Jew and honestly tell me that they look Semitic. You might find a few but most just look like Joe Average. Funnily enough, the only people which can still be considered mainly Semitic are the Arabs.

Actually, that's the one thing I never got about Nazism's racism against Jews. I don't know what the heck Jews are but they sure as hell aren't a race.
 
L233 said:
The classification "caucasian" did not exist in Nazi racist ideology. Colour of skin was more or less irrelevant when determining racial status. It was more of an ethnicity based thing. There was no fuzzy White Power Brotherhood of All White Men thing going on. You could be white as snow, wouldn't have saved you from being worked to death if you were a Slav.

True - but my point was that if Hitler wished the alternate "Hitler victorious" Earth to be "pure Aryan" he wouldn't have struck deals with nations like Japan and Turkey whose people are not only non-Aryan but also non-Caucasian.

Hell, look at your average American Jew and honestly tell me that they look Semitic. You might find a few but most just look like Joe Average. Funnily enough, the only people which can still be considered mainly Semitic are the Arabs.

I must differ. For example, the Jewish-American actress Sarah Silverman could easily be a Lebanese or a Syrian, and many other Jews here have the same appearance. Also Assyrians, Chaldeans, Jacobites, and Somalis even (!) are all non-Arab Semites. Not to mention Mizrahi (sp?) Jews.
 
london-boy said:
[I know i shouldnt take this seriously, but just to make some things clear...]

Well, the Queen is the most "powerful" piece in Chess, so that's sexual discrimination gone. While the King is completely useless (considering he's a freaking king).
I think that "the Queen" in some other languages (well at least Turkish) is called the Vizier so the power of the piece (relative to the King) does make some sense.
 
Simon F said:
I think that "the Queen" in some other languages (well at least Turkish) is called the Vizier so the power of the piece (relative to the King) does make some sense.

Why? What does Vizier mean? I know it must be the easiest thing ever, but i don't get it...
 
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