no,sorry, that was directed at baten. I do think your comments are kinda ridiculous graphics-whore/purist, to me, but your comments don't bother me in that they're in good spirit, I presume. baten's within his rights to disagree that game material should be reviewed upon its moral or societal merit, but his assumptions are pretty grandiose and in general it sickens me to think that anyone would throw a verbal fit over 1 point on a 10-point review scale. Christ, the game's not for everybody, get your panties outta your throat. Anyway, all that is off-topic. No biggie. Just kinda weird to step in here and everyone just teeing off this way or that way simply because GTA is popular. And as a final aside, I loved RDR to little bits; the art style and story were truly unique among video games of any generation. But compared to GTA it barely has any polygons to push, let alone scripting, AI, lights, 100 mph interacting objects, 100 rpm submachine guns, flying parts, etc... kind of a ridiculous comparison to me.