GT HD Premium = GT5 Prologue | GT HD Classic = GT:HD at E3

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The MMORPG equalient of this would be if you buy the game, and instead of earning anything in game, (no loot no money no nothing) you have to buy every single piece of armor you want (and it would ofcourse be made level restricteD)...

But if you dont keep paying every month (which pays for servers, and pays the developers for delivering new content like weapons and levels) you dont get to play at all. Not to mention the usual initial cost of 50 bucks before you can play at all. With this (GT:HD) you could plop down how much you want, and play forever. Nobody is forcing you with this, with an MMORPG your forced to pay to play.
 
no new content
That remains to be seen, don't you think ;)

What really irks me though, is that this version is clearly not going to cost them very much to produce. I would guess that most of their content, including car models and textures, had higher res/polycount sources, which will be reused to make the PS3 version. Maybe even the tracks? Some new stuff will def. have to be incorporated ( as far as we know 3d crowds, more advanced physics model), but compared to the cost of making the original it should be very cheap.
You seem to be confusing GT HD Premium with Classic... they are 2 different games.
 
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Why the need to spin ? :|
I would agree with you *if* all PD does is to charge a per-car or per-track download to play... with no bulk discount, no other value adds and no context. I am not sure if we have all the info needed to make any decision or judgement yet.

I agree. Imo however, GT:HD should be included in full with the PS3 Premium, and at the very most it shouldn't cost more than $60. At that price they need to give us enough percieved value to warrant the cost. Unless they had bulk content deals that gave us significant portions of content for 10-15 dollars (similar to say, XBLA prices), I wouldn't buy into the new pricing model. What capatalistic monster has Valve set off by introducing episodic content?
 
GT HD Premium (and many other PS3 games) will tide me over until GT5 comes out. I see this GT HD thing as more of a big experiment for them, microtransaction and multiplayer-wise. It'll help them figure out what'll work for GT5 and what won't. If Sony didn't even release this GT HD prior to what we've heard about it today, many would've even been relieved. But I can see why people are getting upset over it, as it goes against the model of previous content heavy GT releases. People viewing this thing as a definitive part and sequel in the series shouldn't IMO. Afterall, GT5 may only be a little over a year away ;)
 
That remains to be seen, don't you think ;)

You seem to be confusing GT HD Premium and Classic... they are 2 different games.

They've stated that there is no new content.

edit: Unless you're including the Online mode. And I'm not confusing anything. I am talking about GT:HD Classic, which includes the new pricing model.

edit2: I do agree with everyone saying that there isn't enough information on the new pricing model. If they really mean something else, they need to come out and state it. This is bad PR.
 
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I agree. Imo however, GT:HD should be included in full with the PS3 Premium, and at the very most it shouldn't cost more than $60. At that price they need to give us enough percieved value to warrant the cost. Unless they had bulk content deals that gave us significant portions of content for 10-15 dollars (similar to say, XBLA prices), I wouldn't buy into the new pricing model. What capatalistic monster has Valve set off by introducing episodic content?

In my view, the real issue is _not_ the absurdly high fee for individual users who want everything. Some sort of reference price is already set for console games, so PD would not be able to charge high without uproars like this.

The real problems lie elsewhere. For their new scheme to sustain, some of the key issues are:

* If PD allows users to start playing with a low fee (e.g., per car, per track charging in the 2nd SKU), will it cannibalize SKU 1 ? Does the lower entry fee attract new players at all ?

* Can PD service the users better/faster/cheaper now that they have continuous channels to their userbase for other related services.

It seems that they want to do a large scale, live pilots for their new business model.

And yes, I agree it's bad PR... he has probably received enough feedback about his "bad idea" interview. Like I said, PD has to figure out some win-win formula. Let's hope they found/find something.
 
They've stated that there is no new content.
Eh... where? The Famitsu article clearly indicates new contents. For example this part in the OP I translated
Some models may be a limited release for 1000 units.
is about selling special cars. Also the article shows a pic of a car for GT HD Classic that appeared in Le Mans 24 Hours last year.
 
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In one of the reactions they seem to imply that GT:HD Classic and Premium come on one disc.
Oh my bad. Now that I've reread the article to write the above post, I noticed Yamauchi says "GT:HD is composed of these 2 parts." So it seems the 1 SKU "GT:HD" has 2 sections called "GT:HD Premium" and "GT:HD Classic". *Fixing the OP*
 
Oh my bad. Now that I've reread the article to write the above post, I noticed Yamauchi says "GT:HD is composed of these 2 parts." So it seems the 1 SKU "GT:HD" has 2 sections called "GT:HD Premium" and "GT:HD Classic". *Fixing the OP*

Ok... if they do it this way, then they are just experimenting with their current userbase. I'll be out of it :(

Why buy cars for the HD Classic section though ? ... if you can also buy cars for the Premium section.

EDIT: I re-read the OP, so the Classic section has online races while the first section is more a driving simulator ?

EDIT 2: one, correct me if I'm wrong. Does this mean that the Classic section is their online plan ? So you pay for cars and tracks (one-time) to participate. For people who prefer single player, driving simulator, you get to download additional car packs to the Premium section to play alone ?
 
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Oh my bad. Now that I've reread the article to write the above post, I noticed Yamauchi says "GT:HD is composed of these 2 parts." So it seems the 1 SKU "GT:HD" has 2 sections called "GT:HD Premium" and "GT:HD Classic". *Fixing the OP*

Ok, so It will be sold in the market. I hope they wont dare charging full price for it.
 
EDIT: I re-read the OP, so the Classic section has online races while the first section is more a driving simulator ?

EDIT 2: one, correct me if I'm wrong. Does this mean that the Classic section is their online plan ? So you pay for cars and tracks (one-time) to participate. For people who prefer single player, driving simulator, you get to download additional car packs to the Premium section to play alone ?
Well I fixed the OP again, the multiplayer seems not available for Premium. He calls car/course download "online support" :p Premium is arcade mode only, with car/course downloads.
 
wow. it makes even less sense now.
if both HD:GT's ship at the same time/disc, I believe there 's not much microtransaction to be made on "Classic"
the better for the gamers though. seeing the new engine quicker.
 
Well I fixed the OP again, the multiplayer seems not available for Premium. He calls car/course download "online support" :p Premium is arcade mode only, with car/course downloads.

Haha... I'm confused, so:

* Premium (Driving Simulator)
+ Single player
+ Online support: expand car and track collection via download

* Classic (Online Race)
+ Multiplayer racing _only_
+ Buy at least 1 car and 1 track (one-time) to participate.... instead of monthly subscription fee

Is the above accurate ? based on little info we have.
 
Well one good thing about this... if it fails, it'll be such a high-profile developer and game that it will scare away others from going anywhere NEAR these lengths for years to come! :p

Bear in mind, of course, we don't know if this is the ONLY way to unlock vehicles and tracks. It might just be the quickest, and the way to get EXACTLY what you want, instead of wading through lots of cars you aren't interested in...

As well, they can always change the way it works while the game is in motion, so we'll see what happens.
 
There's no way anybody is going to like a game that's going to nickel-and-dime you that much. I mean charging maybe $60 for it or something (that HAS to go down in price) makes sense but this is the type of thing that makes your fanbase look like a bunch of Marie Antoinettes.
 
GT HD: Classic need to be drop, its going to hurt them in the long run. I don't get why they need to microtransaction GT4 assets. Is the Blu-Ray too small for them ?

And who the hell going to move back to a worst graphics, after they are used to a better one. Drop the Classic and concentrate all resources on the premium, I don't mind microtransaction of circuits and cars on the premium, but not the classic. That's just beyond stupid.
 
Is the above accurate ? based on little info we have.
I think so. You can purchase new cars/tracks for Premium (the GT5 demo), but what they have in the shop is only 30 cars and 2 tracks.

if both HD:GT's ship at the same time/disc, I believe there 's not much microtransaction to be made on "Classic"
For those who want to participate in online competition, I think it makes sense to buy some good cars. It's all about online community thing.
 
GT HD: Classic need to be drop, its going to hurt them in the long run. I don't get why they need to microtransaction GT4 assets. Is the Blu-Ray too small for them ?
And who the hell going to move back to a worst graphics, after they are used to a better one. Drop the Classic and concentrate all resources on the premium, I don't mind microtransaction of circuits and cars on the premium, but not the classic. That's just beyond stupid.
I think it'll all be on one disk but you have to buy it to unlock it or else you would have to download the cars and tracks.
 
I think they just want the Classic part to start building their online presence. If there's no monthly fee, the cars and track purchases make economical sense to play online. I would imagine when the Premium online racing module is ready, it will replace the current Classic module. At which point, you may need to buy new cars (or race in old ones ?). [That's my guess !]
 
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Look what MS started. I'm just disgusted. First horse armor and now this. :???:

My biggest fear is that publishers/developers would hold back on content just to charge us for it later! And it's coming true.
 
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