Formula 1 - 2010 Season

[tongue_of_colicab]

If true that will be the end of Senna in F1 I guess. Usually drivers that leave (get kicked out) F1 don't get back in. Senna might still have some advantage left in his name but than again his name and performance havn't been able to land hem any better than a HRT seat this season so I suppose there wasn't much demand for him with even the low ranking existing teams to begin with.

 

[Phil]

What a pitty - I thought of Bruno as a genuinely nice bloke. I never really judged his speed since the car probably was also a factor...

 

[Bludd]

I don't think his speed is the issue here, it is the money he can/can't bring in.

 

[Phil]

Yeah, you're right. Just started reading up on it a bit. Hope he gets a seat and that this is just temporary.

Anyway, P1 is over and here are the timings posted for convinience:

Pos  Driver         Team                   Time              Laps
 1.  Vettel         Red Bull-Renault       1:32.280             22
 2.  Hamilton       McLaren-Mercedes       1:32.614  +  0.334   16
 3.  Kubica         Renault                1:32.725  +  0.445   21
 4.  Webber         Red Bull-Renault       1:32.747  +  0.467   23
 5.  Sutil          Force India-Mercedes   1:32.968  +  0.688   18
 6.  Rosberg        Mercedes               1:33.318  +  1.038   21
 7.  Hulkenberg     Williams-Cosworth      1:33.377  +  1.097   19
 8.  Button         McLaren-Mercedes       1:33.519  +  1.239   20
 9.  Schumacher     Mercedes               1:33.955  +  1.675   18
10.  Barrichello    Williams-Cosworth      1:34.016  +  1.736   17
11.  Buemi          Toro Rosso-Ferrari     1:34.132  +  1.852   21
12.  Petrov         Renault                1:34.365  +  2.085   22
13.  Alonso         Ferrari                1:34.490  +  2.210   20
14.  di Resta       Force India-Mercedes   1:34.580  +  2.300   22
15.  Kobayashi      Sauber-Ferrari         1:34.710  +  2.430   16
16.  de la Rosa     Sauber-Ferrari         1:34.901  +  2.621   17
17.  Massa          Ferrari                1:35.037  +  2.757   21
18.  Alguersuari    Toro Rosso-Ferrari     1:35.318  +  3.038   27
19.  Kovalainen     Lotus-Cosworth         1:36.747  +  4.467   16
20.  Glock          Virgin-Cosworth        1:37.330  +  5.050   11
21.  di Grassi      Virgin-Cosworth        1:37.518  +  5.238   15
22.  Chandhok       HRT-Cosworth           1:38.735  +  6.455   21
23.  Fauzy          Lotus-Cosworth         1:39.510  +  7.230   11
24.  Yamamoto       HRT-Cosworth           1:39.673  +  7.393   27

All Timing Unofficial

 

[RobertR1]

Looks like Mercedes has finally written off the 2010 season.

 

[Davros]

A team statement read: "Hispania have decided to give an opportunity to one of its four drivers, Sakon Yamamoto, for this race, the British Grand Prix.

"Bruno Senna will continue to drive in the remaining races."

 

[Bludd]

A team statement read: "Hispania have decided to give an opportunity to one of its four drivers, Sakon Yamamoto, for this race, the British Grand Prix.

"Bruno Senna will continue to drive in the remaining races."

Maybe Senna found some money in his mattress.

 

[Dave Baumann]

There's specualtion on James Allen's blog that it may be discaplinary related.

 

[Silent_Buddha]

Looks like Mercedes has finally written off the 2010 season.

If Mercedes has written off 2010, what does that say about Ferrari?

Interesting to see that the only experienced team using Cosworth engines (Williams) is managing to challenge the mercedes engine driven teams. Show's what a difference experience in F1 can make as the rest of the cosworth teams are way back.

Regards,
SB

 

[Bludd]

If Mercedes has written off 2010, what does that say about Ferrari?

Regards,
SB

That Ferrari are trying to catch up? I don't understand.



Anyway, McLaren are having problems with their blown diffuser and is going to wait until Hockenheim to use it so they can make improvements.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/85141

Apparently, these blown diffusers are not really using exhaust directly into the diffuser. They used such devices in the 80s but the cars became very sensitive to throttle usage. What I have read is that the low exhaust is about cleaning or containing airflow around the tyres.

 

[Bludd]

If Mercedes has written off 2010, what does that say about Ferrari?

Interesting to see that the only experienced team using Cosworth engines (Williams) is managing to challenge the mercedes engine driven teams. Show's what a difference experience in F1 can make as the rest of the cosworth teams are way back.

Regards,
SB

Well, the Williams is a much more refined car. Even though Mike Gascoyne of Lotus is a very experienced man, he elected to go for a conservative car wrt. materials and construction. What Lotus are doing now, for this race, is making their definitive 2010 car with light-weight components. After this big update they are concentrating on 2011. If they had gone for light-weight components at the start, they would have had much more problems than they have had, I think.

 

[Dave Baumann]

They used such devices in the 80s but the cars became very sensitive to throttle usage.

Actually, McLaren used these well into the 2000's. The MP4-16 was the last McLaren to race with them, while they also featured on the MP4-18 which never raced. These were all Newey designed McLarens...

 

[Bludd]

Actually, McLaren used these well into the 2000's. The MP4-16 was the last McLaren to race with them, while they also featured on the MP4-18 which never raced. These were all Newey designed McLarens...

Thanks, didn't know they were used so recently.

 

[Bludd]

There's some interesting stuff on the blown diffuser concept here

http://scarbsf1.wordpress.com/2010/06/25/exhaust-driven-diffusers/

Also in the comments, there is mentioned that James Allen's blog had some info on Red Bull managing to keep exhaust pressure up even when lifting off, a special engine map.

I am getting hyped up for this weekend, though. Lots of sport, F1, WC and TdF.

 

[Bludd]

It wasn't really a thriller of a quali, but Button struggled immensely. Vettel and Webber dominated with Alonso an encouraging 3rd. Hamilton wrestled the car and got it in to 4th, a good achievement.

Tomorrow will be interesting if Ferrari or McLaren can have better race pace than Red Bull.

 

[V3]

Is there forecast for rain ? If not its most likely Red Bull 1,2 but there is a chance they take each other out, since both drivers have tendency of crashing out. But its a good grid, with Vettel Vs Webber and Alonso Vs Hamilton, there are no love between them.

 

[Bludd]

Is there forecast for rain ? If not its most likely Red Bull 1,2 but there is a chance they take each other out, since both drivers have tendency of crashing out. But its a good grid, with Vettel Vs Webber and Alonso Vs Hamilton, there are no love between them.

Forecast is partial cloudy (according to forumula1.com), but it is Northampton in July so anything can happen.

 

[Bludd]

Vettel ran with the new front wing in quali today and not Webber. Some people are calling favouritism, Christian Horner said he had to take a tough decision. Who thinks that it is Helmut Marko and Didi Mateschitz pulling the strings? The RB6 is so fast, both drivers could have used the old wing and still beaten all.

 

[tongue_of_colicab]

They had 2 wings. Vettels wing broke and they removed the wing from webbers car and bolted in on vettels. That should say enough right?

Besides RB is talking bull again. Horner said the wing makes such a small difference that it doesnt really matter much but they are running it because newey really wanted to. If it makes such a small difference, than why not leave it on webbers car?

Its obvious that its vettel first.

 

[Silent_Buddha]

I wonder if when Webber re-signed if he knew he was always going to play second fiddle to Vettel no matter how well he himself does.

Regards,
SB