Formula 1 - 2010 Season
- Thread starter Dave Baumann
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I don't know about dangerous, but it fights against the very rules every team has agreed on regarding rear wings.
But now that it's been done, everyone and their grandmother will copy it ASAP
Reason why I say it may be dangerous is because the drivers are already having to concentrate incredibly hard on just keeping the car on the road.
I remember a few years ago it was possible to adjust the front wing by the driver and after a major accident (I think it was Michael Andretti) the rules were changed to stop the driver from being distracted from driving.
Placing a knee in a strategic location may not be so distracting but it is something else the driver has to worry about.
I remember a few years ago it was possible to adjust the front wing by the driver and after a major accident (I think it was Michael Andretti) the rules were changed to stop the driver from being distracted from driving.
Placing a knee in a strategic location may not be so distracting but it is something else the driver has to worry about.
Considering it's meant to be used just on long straights with braking leg, shouldn't be too distracting
Moveable front wings were actually re-introduced last year as part of the "Overtaking Working Group" that caused the massive reconfiguration of the aero last year.
The driver being capable of doing things in the car is part and pacel of the job - take a look at the number of options on the steering wheel's of the top teams to see what they are expected to deal with routinely:
tongue_of_colicab
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I dont think movable body parts have been allowed in the past few decades? Apart from flex wings but that is different. Besides I dont think that rule you talk about ever existed because for example since last year teams are allowed to adjust the front wing flaps 2 times every lap from the cockpit and for the past decade or so steering wheels have also become very complicated with the really skilled drivers adjusting multiple things sometimes every corner. If they really wanted drivers to concentrate on driving alone there are lots and lots of things that take more concentration that placing your legg in a certain position on the straight where you are basically doing nothing.
Steve Sunday (if we translate his name) talks to James Allen
http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2010/03/ferrari-boss-on-racing-schumacher-tyre-and-money-problems/
He says that Bridgestone wants money to stay in F1 and then they somehow need to pull back in again, which is going to make them look like a petulant child. He also says another tyre manufacturer cannot enter F1 for next year because it is simply too late for that.
Michelin could come back, but they are angry and feel mistreated by F1. I hope they come back and I hope there's a tyre war again. Control tyres are boring.
http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2010/03/ferrari-boss-on-racing-schumacher-tyre-and-money-problems/
He says that Bridgestone wants money to stay in F1 and then they somehow need to pull back in again, which is going to make them look like a petulant child. He also says another tyre manufacturer cannot enter F1 for next year because it is simply too late for that.
Michelin could come back, but they are angry and feel mistreated by F1. I hope they come back and I hope there's a tyre war again. Control tyres are boring.
I said some time ago that if new teams will be within 3sec. average per lap from the front runners it will be great achievement for them. Clearly they are not there yet ...
To their defence Bahran is second longest track in calendar with a lot of slow speed corners where downforce is crucial. I think on some tracks they will be within 3sec. of the fastest :smile:
Surprise for me was quite poor Maclaren performance! They still lack downforce on their cars when they light. RedBull and Ferrari are clearly in front with Brawn ... errmm I mean Mercedes close behind!
This is true beginning of the arms race now. Who will develop faster and in right direction? Renault is openly admitting that they are underdeveloped compared to others, but they have good plan how to catch up! If past is any guidance, they are good in catching up mid season. I hope it's not too late by then for Robert to mess a bit with the usual suspects
Rosberg consistently faster than Schumacher during qualifying seems to have unnerved the man of steel. I don't think he has anything to worry about though, it is the first track.
The redesign of the circuit is not popular with the drivers and watching the onboard camera of Vettel and Button you can see why - those guys are taking a hammering during the mid section.
Tomorrow is going to be interesting - the BBC coverage after the race was cool - so nice to see Mansell, he has gotten less boring with age.
The redesign of the circuit is not popular with the drivers and watching the onboard camera of Vettel and Button you can see why - those guys are taking a hammering during the mid section.
Tomorrow is going to be interesting - the BBC coverage after the race was cool - so nice to see Mansell, he has gotten less boring with age.
tongue_of_colicab
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No they are not. They barely had any testing and atleast the lotus and virgin have been put together in very little time. They are only 3 to 4 seconds slower than p1 at the moment, which means only 2 to 3 secs slower than the mclaren. Not bad if you compare the time and resources they have compared to a team like mclaren which basically already had everything in place (including a base care to design their current car on) while the new teams had nothing. In a couple of races time they probably can come closer as their will be a lot to improve on set up and aero.
Also 3 seconds isnt really that much if you look into F1 history.
DuckThor Evil
Legend
Hamilton's fastest time during qualifying was 5 seconds faster than Timo Glock's time (fastest driver of the new teams). Vettel was almost a second more quicker. HRT-cosworth is barely faster than a GP2 car... Let's hope they'll improve soon.
Annoying that the on-screen graphics in the world feed have gone backwards. Last year we got a shuffling tower of times at the left side of the screen when people went over the line in qualifying, now we get that weird offset thing at the bottom and we only get it occasionally.
Brilliant pole by Vettel, Massa out-qualified my hero Alonso, but let's wait for the race.
The McLarens are over 1 second off the front running pace. I think either their set-up has gone to crap or their car has some serious deficiencies. I think it's more likely the former and I would be very surprised if it's the latter and it would be a disaster.
Brilliant pole by Vettel, Massa out-qualified my hero Alonso, but let's wait for the race.
The McLarens are over 1 second off the front running pace. I think either their set-up has gone to crap or their car has some serious deficiencies. I think it's more likely the former and I would be very surprised if it's the latter and it would be a disaster.
It is early days with the new teams but quite honestly whatever the FIA were originally thinking has backfired to an extent. The new teams at the moment are like chicanes and will add a new dimension to the racing - one that most fans will not appreciate.
However well saying all that, well done to the teams that made it and extra special well done to Karun Chandhok who did his first laps in qualifying and not only managed to stay on track but also was only 3 tenths behind his team mate.
I hope there is a little more stability in Formula One over the next few years - it seems to me that Max Mosley was on a crash course to breaking Formula One for good and he almost succeeded.
However well saying all that, well done to the teams that made it and extra special well done to Karun Chandhok who did his first laps in qualifying and not only managed to stay on track but also was only 3 tenths behind his team mate.
I hope there is a little more stability in Formula One over the next few years - it seems to me that Max Mosley was on a crash course to breaking Formula One for good and he almost succeeded.
They are looking to introduce the 107% rule. It can come this year if all teams agree to it, so it is most probably coming next year. I think the new teams need to be given some time. They are far back, but they will also make the biggest strides forward in lap time.
I can't wait for the race tomorrow.
I can't wait for the race tomorrow.
Problem with this line of argument is that it's like listening to Man U, Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool fans saying that the other teams in the Premier League just get in the way of their teams inevitable march to the title.
Well, how interesting would the Premier League be with just those four teams?
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