You may be correct, but Heikki didn't attack in the first few laps. He had KERS, he could have muscled his way through. He was too timid.
Formula 1 - 2009 Season
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tongue_of_colicab
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Muscling your way through when you got a heavy car that doesnt work for you doesnt really work on a track like monza where speed mean a lot. I dont remember exactly where he got overtaking but I believe it was on the straights which would make sense especially in the first few laps (didnt liuzzi pass him during the opening of the race?) because the cars are still so close together that they can run in each others slipstream without having to first punch through the turbulant air so if you got a heavy car that doesnt work for you its easy to lose places and there isnt a whole lot you can do about it.
Now I do think Kovelainen just doesnt have the pace but you cant forget that atleast I often get the idea that mclaren puts him up with the less than steller strategy at alot of races.
Now I do think Kovelainen just doesnt have the pace but you cant forget that atleast I often get the idea that mclaren puts him up with the less than steller strategy at alot of races.
More BS from the same old faces.
Hamilton was catching Button hand over fist, he was quicker by almost 2 tenths in the first sector alone.
I guarantee you that if Hamilton didn't go off Button would've let him past. He's not got the bottle to go toe to toe with someone like Hamilton.
Heikki gets the "less than stella" tactics as they probably feel thats the only way he's going to get a result. He doesn't belong in a good team, hopefully he's gone and Kimi comes back to McLaren. Be good to have two real racers in the same car.
Yes, he was almost 2 tenths faster in the first sector, after that he had 2 sectors to 1) catch 0.7-0.8 second gap (can't remember exact gap, it was 0.7xx I think) and 2) pass Button.
You're the one spouting BS here if you think there was a remote chance for that to happen, but it's no surprise considering how certain people think Hamilton still is the "Senna-incarnate son of god best driver ever"
Funny thing comes to mind from how the media works btw, Hamilton has been in this case mostly thanked in media for trying so hard.
However when Kimi has done similar, and either crashed (on wet, Spa 2008) or to mechanical failure (can't remember race), he has been blamed for "not taking the guaranteed points" and screwing everything up
He couldn't, the harder tires didn't work on McLaren at all with heavy fuel load, as soon as he got to lighter load he was already doing ok, and then with softer tyres even better than that, in the end doing similar laps as the lead did.
Heikki was one stopping, the optimal strategy
Lucky for you Hamilton crashed then. Barrichello needs to score 3 points more than Button until the end. Button knows this.
I missed this part, seriously wtf are you on?
Rurouni
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I don't know if Button would've go toe to toe with him, but Hamilton got this to say
'Hamilton admitted he was pushing so hard because he didn't have much to lose.
"If we were leading or fighting for the world championship it would be a slightly different scenario, and perhaps I would have put a lot more thought into just getting the points, as we've learned in the past," Hamilton added.' - http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/78642
If... let just say if.. Hamilton make the mistake while Button was near him and in the process took out Button, wouldn't we all be talking about Button should let Hamilton pass? or we all be talking about how reckless Hamilton driving is?
In the end, I don't think Hamilton could have pass Button... getting close is a lot easier than to get pass, especially since both cars have a similar lap times. That McLaren needs KERS just to have similar lap times, so overtaking isn't easy. He's faster in the first sector probably because of the KERS, but once the KERS depleted, then back being slow again.
Well, Hamilton was driving quicker than Button and catching up. Fact.
If Button could have driven quicker - who knows? Hamilton certainly didn't have the pressure Button has, as the points Button scores from now on is vital to him winning thechamptionship. He's also under a lot of pressure from the media as well.
Given the track, it wouldn't have been impossible to overtake. Despite how close the McLaren might be to the Brawn thanks to KERS - KERS still gives the edge in overtaking maneuvers (quicker acceleration). The Brawn might be overall level, but that doesn't help it if it can't overtake.
You're the one spouting BS here if you think there was a remote chance for that to happen, but it's no surprise considering how certain people think Hamilton still is the "Senna-incarnate son of god best driver ever"
To be honest, your constant bashing everything Hamilton related is becoming rather annoying. How about you give it a break and be a bit more objective and constructive in your posts? No one is interested in what you think others think about Hamilton. Everyone has their opinion - if you like someone else, fine. Lets leave the media hype outside of these discussions.
Thanks.
Even if I "bash him", I admit he's one of the best drivers at the moment, just disagree on how some apparently see him
BMW secure Swiss buyer for BMW-Sauber
Lotus secure F1 berth next season
Gonna be a far more crowded grid next season. 14 teams & 28 cars.
Lotus secure F1 berth next season
Gonna be a far more crowded grid next season. 14 teams & 28 cars.
Joe Saward on Symonds being offered immunity and the implications that this is more a matter of politics than sports.
http://joesaward.wordpress.com/2009/09/15/using-immunity-as-a-weapon/
http://joesaward.wordpress.com/2009/09/15/using-immunity-as-a-weapon/
This is undoubtedly revenge against Briatore for the FOTA secession threat, which he was in the vanguard for.
I am incredibly disappointed in Symonds.
Immunity is only valid if you are telling the truth.
Symonds and Piquet are basically blaming each other for this...
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