Dave Baumann said:Andy, are you sure that even with application usage of the Transcoding non-X1000 users will get benefits? The Transcode app itself is just a dinky, quick, front-end to their API and the API will probably hold the controls as to which boards it operates on - its the API that ATI will port to run on hardware, so that any application will get the benefits if/when they do, so the issue is likely to apply to the API rather than the app(s).
Cobra licensees won't have GPU-specific lockdown. But on top of that there will be development of hooks for accelerating part of Cobra on the GPU. Whether those are specific and transparent to the API is unknown at the moment. They're also thinking about opening it up via DirectShow, as a filter, but likely as a 'simpler' transcoder with less adjust.Dave Baumann said:Andy, are you sure that even with application usage of the Transcoding non-X1000 users will get benefits? The Transcode app itself is just a dinky, quick, front-end to their API and the API will probably hold the controls as to which boards it operates on - its the API that ATI will port to run on hardware, so that any application will get the benefits if/when they do, so the issue is likely to apply to the API rather than the app(s).
Well, he let me proofread his article on the 5.13s and AVIVO and I never feel comfortable talking about stuff like that until it's up and published.geo said:Hanners Hath Decreed or sumtin?
Rys said:However, it's shit,
CATALYST MAKER said:not nice.. I happen to like it alot
Well according to Hanners write-up the new AVIVO is entirely software based and they plan to utulize the X1xxx's hardware features in later revisions...but they aren't using any now so it should be useable by ANY ATi hardware, yet it ain't.Rys said:I think you're mixing up what can and can't be supported, and what Avivo is. Avivo is a bunch of technologies, some of which are implemented in hardware (it's not just a software layer), which means some of the tech just isn't present in the X8-series of products and so can't be applied to older boards.
Of the stuff being updated or added today - new video driver for SD deinterlacing improvements, Video Convertor application, and H.264 decoder - which are really just a section of what Avivo is, only the video convertor would be applicable to X8-series, and it's shit anyway (bar it being fast, of course) The other two rely on specific support in X1K hardware for them to work.
Unless someone can prove that's not the case, the other stuff is specific to hardware found in X1Ks and therefore doesn't apply to X8.
Dave Baumann said:No, the AVIVO transcode app is software based, but thats not "AVIVO", merely an element that falls under the AVIVO umbrella. The primary update here is the video quality enabled by the drivers, which is very much hardware based (although I have issues with that myself).
Catalyst 5.13 represents the greatest leap in video quality technology for ATI since the original Mach64-VT.
digitalwanderer said:Well according to Hanners write-up the new AVIVO is entirely software based and they plan to utulize the X1xxx's hardware features in later revisions...but they aren't using any now so it should be useable by ANY ATi hardware, yet it ain't.
If all you ever want to do is switch formats, then great. It's really fast doing so. But that's all it has going for it right now. PSP video spat out by the tool is horrible right now.CATALYST MAKER said:not nice.. I happen to like it alot
Our sources indicate that ATI is testing new drivers that will use more of the video hardware in the X1800 and the X800. The buzz we’re getting from our sources is that this new driver may bring ATI’s video performance into the triple digits in the HQV Benchmark!
Just swapped cards and tested it. There are no benefits to video with Cat 5.13 and the X800. (It's the X1800 that is good)