"FSR 2 here is a shimmery mess, you guys saw my video comparison of the space sport sequence it was shimmering everywhere. Dlss fixes all of that, it looks better than native with TAA and it's just so temporally stable and you get super clean edges that make the game look super sampled."
It exhibits all the worst aspects of a bad TAA implementation and almost none of the positive aspects of a good TAA implementation.
FSR is a wash with the absolute worst TAA implementations. The old resolution scale sliders some games implemented in combination with their TAA are vastly better than FSR.
Why does every discussion around a polarising viewpoint always degenerate into dumb insults? This is the nerd equivalent of football hooliganism. It's embarrassing. Line of discussion closed. Purge protocols enacted.
Wrt to Starfield the budget it appears was to place all of it on modelling objects in world, there’s very little detail on the “level” itself. Which is quite reverse of what most people are used to. The trash looks amazing but the environment is fairly degraded compared to what people is used to.
Thats my overall concern the model details inside the ship are high level and its not some technical feat its simply that artist where allowed to put high polycount models in inside environments, but outside the ship the details dont hold up and all that after loading screens, and for 200+ million budget it just doesnt hold any water, all they did was retopologize less polygons from zbrush models if anything... ill get criticised for saying this but ratchet had fully modeld bullet casings and environmentt details all at 60 fps raytraced in outside environments not in a confined space ship same can be said for forbidden west even when u pause and zoom 400x
There are hundreds of useless objects and items all modelled and interactable with the world of Starfield each one receiving light from GI and casting their own shadows and reflecting as well. All of this with a properly applied physics model to them and with permanence in the world. Each item is an actual object in the world, and it’s very different than ejecting some bullet casings that stick around for 30 seconds and the disappear.
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ive played the game on my pc, im not talking out of thin air, modeling high detailed objects on a confined environment is easy seemingly to a tech demo, now having high detailed models when outside a confined space with action everywhere at 60 fps is the wow factor here the fact that ratcher accomplished it with gi and raytraced reflections at 60 is what i call a technical feat, i simply cant see the wow factor here in starfield models thats hard to do with loading screens and confined spaces, their artists had freedom to play around with high polys, and pbr inside a ship thasts all i see.There are hundreds of useless objects and items all modelled and interactable with the world of Starfield each one receiving light from GI and casting their own shadows and reflecting as well. All of this with a properly applied physics model to them and with permanence in the world. Each item is an actual object in the world, and it’s very different than ejecting some bullet casings that stick around for 30 seconds and the disappear.
If you’re only looking at what materials people are posting about Starfield you sort of only see what’s bad and not what’s good. That’s sort of the difference between playing the game and seeing what pictures people are posting online.
Starfield is one of those games you gotta play otherwise you rely on players with a good eye to know when they are looking at something great to take a photo of it and that’s an artistic skill of the player.
This thread pretty much sums up the different things you can see:
Starfield - Photography Thread
It's the first shot of the game that I see where a planet cast a shadow on it's rings. Modded on PC?
As per what Starfield does correctly:
I think this scene actually captures its lighting solution as a whole.
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Look at the shadows all resulting from different light sources. look at the mixture of lighting. Look at the reflections in the glass. All of this is done dynamically and none of it baked. That’s just not something last gen games could do.
true but in a confined space like this a ps4 can also have dynamic lights and plenty of objects to play around with just not in outside environments, with loading screens and confined spaces its not a technical feat. realltime global illumination was demoed as far back as x360 and ps3, 512mb consoles.
