Digital Foundry Article Technical Discussion [2022]

Discussion in 'Console Technology' started by BRiT, Jan 1, 2022.

  1. Allandor

    Allandor Regular

    Ok ... it is news for me that local dimming is deactivated on sony LCDs but that might explain some things.
    On the other side, as far as I remember activating local dimming adds additional lag because the picture must be processed by the tv.

    Btw, does LFC also work on 30fps titles in 60Hz mode? There are enough titles on the market that have a quality mode that just runs with 30 fps but even those are not rock stable.
    No VRR for PS4 games is a bummer ... hoped that at least they force it for everything on the ps5. Yes, the PS5 will brute force 60 most of the time, but there are also enough titles that dip.
     
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  2. ethomaz

    ethomaz Newcomer

    I don't think LFC works in 60Hz mode because when you double the framerate you are already over 60Hz... so you need 120Hz to it work.
    Said that John said the LFC seems to be only enabled by game developers... so it is not system level.
     
  3. Allandor

    Allandor Regular

    But in a 30fps title, you would only reach 60fps max if you double the framerate. That's why I ask if LFC or VRR works in those titles. Quality modes are already mostly only 30fps and I guess future titles won't always offer 60fps modes.
     
  4. snc

    snc Veteran

    Yes it can work below 30fps but still you get poor framerate. I would like to see more targeting 40fps with uncapped framerate but not so optimistic it will be the case.
     
  5. Jay

    Jay Veteran

    Without a patch 30 would be below 48fps min, so wouldn't work as it doesn't support LFC on a system level.

    If it had system level LFC or game patched then it would work by doubling or tripling the frame
     
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  6. Riddlewire

    Riddlewire Regular

    @Dictator
    You said you've never seen a 45hz game. Here are two:
    Condemned: Criminal Origins (Xbox 360)
    Arkham Asylum, Return to Arkham Collection (Xbox One)

    Play either on a Xbox One X or Xbox Series X and you can see a capped 45fps game.
     
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  7. PSman1700

    PSman1700 Legend

    Or maybe he capped a game to 40fps using rivatuner for use on s 120hz panel.
     
  8. BRiT

    BRiT (>• •)>⌐■-■ (⌐■-■) Moderator Legend Alpha

    They removed VRR support from Returnal. I wonder why.

     
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  9. Reynaldo

    Reynaldo Newcomer

    I hope a 120hz with unlocked framerate mode is coming. Otherwise why remove it?
     
  10. Dictator

    Dictator Regular

    In regard to that I meant a panel running at a constant real 40hz :) So not the framerate, but the panel.
     
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  11. ethomaz

    ethomaz Newcomer

    New video.

     
  12. snc

    snc Veteran

    anybody played this ? considering give it a try as in 1512p should look ok
     
  13. iroboto

    iroboto Daft Funk Legend Subscriber

    some sections seriously gave me flashbacks of playing The Medium
     
  14. snc

    snc Veteran

    I don't like usualy horrors games so not sure its good recomendation ;d
     
  15. PSman1700

    PSman1700 Legend

    Looks stunning, like the Chernobyl tour mode addition on pc. A way to visit the area without radiation dangers ;)
     
  16. Silent_Buddha

    Silent_Buddha Legend

    I haven't played it myself, but I've heard from people that loved the Stalker gamers that this game is really good.

    Regards,
    SB
     
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  17. PSman1700

    PSman1700 Legend

    Is there any truth to that MS has asked DF not to do comparisons to pc versions? I see it in the fb/yt comments, where people ask why the xbox is never used in these comparisons.

    Btw theres no mention of it but the ps5 is actually using fsr.
     
  18. BRiT

    BRiT (>• •)>⌐■-■ (⌐■-■) Moderator Legend Alpha

    Alex already answered why only PC and PS -- lack of time.
     
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  19. PSman1700

    PSman1700 Legend

    Allright, just a load of BS in yt comments sections then (not really surprised).
     
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  20. Phantom88

    Phantom88 Newcomer

    i saw as well, people got weirdly angry about this video for why isnt it about consoles and why is it about PC. I saw it on various forums. Where is this coming from though ? Didnt Alex get on board with DF to specifically cover PC ? God knows PC was the about the last thing on their mind before Alex came. Some were acting almost offended today why is this about PC and not Xbox. How "most" people want to see consoles vs consoles and not pc. The weirdest thing
     
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