That's what i mean actually, i see people throwing numbers everywhere, from 8 to 16TF or even higher, but we have no information at all how many it will be. Phil only said 'twice as powerfull', and people can do what they want with that
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That's what i mean actually, i see people throwing numbers everywhere, from 8 to 16TF or even higher, but we have no information at all how many it will be. Phil only said 'twice as powerfull', and people can do what they want with that
Thanks for the kind words, will relay it to John
I think we, like people here have been reasonably saying, just want some firm numbers on official channels rather than rumour mill secondary sources saying things. MS decided to Phrase the Gpu Power Thing in a way that consumers can get, but one that makes people on forums like this just a bit frustrated on what they mean.
Either way, the Gpu is looking good. Just want to see how AMD RT Implementation works out.
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Article: https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2019-senuas-saga-hellblade-2-trailer-analysis
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I believe it was confirmed it was in-engine and real-time in another interview. But that's not really important I guess with respect to Alex's article here.
Key take away is that the video was there to showcase what the target for next generation visuals are expected to be and so in that regard I do feel most people walked away with the feeling of understanding the difference between today's games and what next gen will be selling.
We will know more in 2020; Sony is bound to have such a demo when they do their PS5 reveal. If it's in the same ballpark that's a good sign of things to come.
I wonder if it's more expensive or less expensive to do the graphics for these types of games. In many ways I recall the artists making high detailed versions of textures and models and then be forced to scale downwards to meet game requirements. But if they don't have to; then I guess it saves labour?
But then the detail is insane. Quite curious to see what studio costs will be on next gen games.
Key take away is that the video was there to showcase what the target for next generation visuals are expected to be and so in that regard I do feel most people walked away with the feeling of understanding the difference between today's games and what next gen will be selling.
We will know more in 2020; Sony is bound to have such a demo when they do their PS5 reveal. If it's in the same ballpark that's a good sign of things to come.
I wonder if it's more expensive or less expensive to do the graphics for these types of games. In many ways I recall the artists making high detailed versions of textures and models and then be forced to scale downwards to meet game requirements. But if they don't have to; then I guess it saves labour?
But then the detail is insane. Quite curious to see what studio costs will be on next gen games.
Sony will do like last PS meeting and show gameplay. We will have a good idea of launch game visual.
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"It is good to be skeptical. Managing expectations regarding next-gen.” -Alex Battaglia
Words that can’t be stated enough for all next-generation platforms involved.
Words that can’t be stated enough for all next-generation platforms involved.
That's the thing. They already showed gameplay (sure a PC / PS5 game, but so like Hellblade 2). The first official PS5 game that they showed at the Game award had some impressive gameplay and at even 60fps (not 24fps). I think it would have being a more interesting analysis than an "in-engine cutscene" analysis. We already heard that one with notably Uncharted 4 with the 60fps in-engine trailer.
We already have that with the HellBlade 2 showcase, it is about what to expect. It is cleary a generation apart from what we got on consoles.
Have said it before, this time is the best regarding next generation consoles, the hype is real now already.
We will have gameplay this is a bit different... no in engine...
Aha ok, good to know, the hellblade demo was there to show what ingame graphics are going to be. It's about what i would expect from ballpark 10TF navi hardware.
We will have gameplay this is a bit different... no in engine...
So Game Play is not In Engine, it's out of engine?
Wrong. For all we know inengine especially the non real time ones could be very far fetched to what ingame graphics would look. Even nowadays with Battlefield series, their inengine trailers look way above what the actual gameplay looks like. You can't possibly get a clear idea of what the next gen gameplay would look until we see actual next gen gameplay footage, simple as that. That said we can be hopeful tho, that with the radical improvement of next gen hardware the gap will shrink but we don't know that for sure yet.
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It may be comparable to the Uncharted 4 reveal: in-game it doesn't look as good, but there's something wrong with you if that's appreciable during gameplay.
As a slight aside, I think all of Uncharted 4's cutscenes were rendered in real-time, certainly most were. It's not a deal breaker for me, but it is an approach that I prefer to pre-recorded - even if pre-recorded in-engine - just for coherence when it comes to costumes/equipment.
Like I say, it's not that big of a deal, but I enjoyed seeing Drake play Elena's PS1 whilst wearing a full scuba outfit. Or, less flippantly, Geralt looking resplendent in the armour that I'd crafted by murdering scores of foul beasts... who, come to think of it, only seemed to be going about their day when I came charging in, flailing with my silver sword, and flinging poison, fire, and arrows at them.
As a slight aside, I think all of Uncharted 4's cutscenes were rendered in real-time, certainly most were. It's not a deal breaker for me, but it is an approach that I prefer to pre-recorded - even if pre-recorded in-engine - just for coherence when it comes to costumes/equipment.
Like I say, it's not that big of a deal, but I enjoyed seeing Drake play Elena's PS1 whilst wearing a full scuba outfit. Or, less flippantly, Geralt looking resplendent in the armour that I'd crafted by murdering scores of foul beasts... who, come to think of it, only seemed to be going about their day when I came charging in, flailing with my silver sword, and flinging poison, fire, and arrows at them.
In engine but not real-time means the graphics can be dialled up to 11. eg. Your engine could support raytracing...running at 4 fps. You disable that for the game, but you enable it when rendering the cutscenes one frame at a time and dumping them to a video. That way you get to use the same assets but at far superior quality. Perhaps the best example of this is a Unity game on mobile. You could use the Unity Engine to render something like Book of the Dead/Heretic for a mobile game, run it either on a high end PC or at 0.001fps on mobile, and label it 'in engine', and then use completely different mobile-level graphics for gameplay.
The most important piece of info for any trailer is 'realtime on target hardware'.
The most important piece of info for any trailer is 'realtime on target hardware'.
And XBox series X presumably.
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