You should watch Martin Fuller presentation on vrs tier 2.
Dead Space Remake [PS5, XBSX|S, PC]
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You should watch Martin Fuller presentation on vrs tier 2.
Inuhanyou
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Probably so ey?
I can't claim to know much myself, education is the best way of things 
But even so the results speak very well already in games for VRS as a whole if done right. I think that's indisputable
Probably so ey?
But even so the results speak very well already in games for VRS as a whole if done right. I think that's indisputable
True. But without more info we can’t draw any conclusions. What went wrong ? Why they disabled vrs completely on all platforms and not tried to fix it instead. Was it problem with software vs hardware implementation or with implementation in general. We have seen some excellent results of vrs like doom, gears gears tactics, halo infinite, COD etc and not so great like dead space. It’s hard to judge this technology when done wrong.
“Software-Based VRS also has some trade-offs including implementation complexity and the overhead of a de-blocking pass. One possibility is to use a hybrid of both techniques, switching between VRS techniques based on the characteristics of the rendering pass.”
Moving Gears to Tier 2 Variable Rate Shading - DirectX Developer Blog
The team at The Coalition haven’t stopped innovating since bringing Tier 1 VRS to Gears Tactics, and have brought Tier 2 VRS support to both Gears 5 and Gears Tactics. The team saw similarly large perf gains from VRS Tier 2 – up to 14%! – this time with no noticeable visual impact. See for […]
devblogs.microsoft.com
Inuhanyou
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Is it confirmed they took out VRS entirely?
If so it's very strange to do that when the game performs pretty much the same either way, why even have it in that case in the first place?
*Edit* didn't see your post on previous page
Maybe for their next project they will try to refine it to make implementation better. Or maybe they decided it's not worth the hassle as a whole?
Sony has flexible scale rasterization and it goes a bit further but they use it only for VR. VRS is at least very useful for VR or with a subtle usage.
Is it confirmed they took out VRS entirely?
If so it's very strange to do that when the game performs pretty much the same either way, why even have it in that case in the first place?
*Edit* didn't see your post on previous page
Maybe for their next project they will try to refine it to make implementation better. Or maybe they decided it's not worth the hassle as a whole?
According to John yes. On all platforms.
That’s a good questions. What’s the penalty. If there is none why do they bother with vrs in first place? It’s all seems weird.
Well, it's probably the easiest VRS solution to implement.
That's exactly what I was suspecting based on the textures details seen after the patch!
Inuhanyou
Veteran
It also makes sense why the patch is out so fast. They just needed to click "disable VRS on PS5"
Even if there were some very minor drops, with this performance profile VRR would clean it up anyway.
Is there even a reason to get games at realase day at full price? Unfinished and buggy mess.
Inuhanyou
Veteran
I still hear about major issues with PC version relating to stuttering and extreme fps drops for seemingly no reason. And that's after motive supposedly went through the game with a comb to look for shader compilation problems. I have no idea why games are released in such state
Competitive multiplayer shooters maybe. For single player games I have a strict minimum 4 year policy before even considering it. I don’t revisit games so when I play something I want all bugs squashed and all dlc included from day one.
It’s great that the Dead Space devs are so responsive but did they really not know about the IQ issues before release day? Or did they know but were waiting to see if people complained before deciding to fix it?
Come one, its not like the devs are sitting around saying, "okay we are done ish, let's ship, the IQ is "crap" and basically everything just sucks, ok, ship it!"
Most likely there are deadlines and financial reasons that means it will go gold and then they have the opportunity to keep fixing stuff between gold and release and hopefully after release.
Now, should it be like this, of course not, but its the reality of 2023, you have teams of hundreds of people working on these games not like in the 80s where there was like 1-3 people
Its all about money, I mean somebody is paying upfront for years before possible seeing any return, so yeah an extra month or two of payroll for hundreds of people adds up....
Most likely there are deadlines and financial reasons that means it will go gold and then they have the opportunity to keep fixing stuff between gold and release and hopefully after release.
Now, should it be like this, of course not, but its the reality of 2023, you have teams of hundreds of people working on these games not like in the 80s where there was like 1-3 people
Its all about money, I mean somebody is paying upfront for years before possible seeing any return, so yeah an extra month or two of payroll for hundreds of people adds up....
Cynicalking
Regular
So... worth buying on PC for 48 bucks? How would it run on a 13600k + 2070 Super?
Can always wait for it to hit EA Play. Is there a higher EA Vault tier on PC that includes more games sooner?
Cynicalking
Regular
Yep. Seems all new releases are included in EA Play Pro, including upcoming games like Jedi Survivor. 15$ a month.
Here is an intresting video
(8) Dead Space Remake - Patch 1.03 - PS5 - Graphical Issues Fixed? - YouTube
I have to say i am confused as this doesn't look anything as bad as the images we saw before.
hmmm this is from PS5 version after VRS fix.
(8) Dead Space Remake - Patch 1.03 - PS5 - Graphical Issues Fixed? - YouTube
I have to say i am confused as this doesn't look anything as bad as the images we saw before.
hmmm this is from PS5 version after VRS fix.
Inuhanyou
Veteran
I'll trust John over some random guy. And it's not like it was just pixel pushers seeing it. A lot of people called out the muddy graphics on PC and console but didn't know what they were looking at
True true. I am not trying to “debunk” it or anything. Everything will be clear when we get DF vid.
