Apparantly the PSP2 exists.
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I don't see how such a system could be egineered though. You'd need the cooling aspect to attach to the chips' heat output. You could, for example, have the processors back onto the back of the PSP2 so that in the cradle they come into contact with a cooling plate, but that's inefficient to the point it wouldn't work and would place the heat dissipation of the handheld into the user's hands. You could alternatively have a fluid coolant system piped around the PSP2 system from the base, but the cost and problems would be excessive.
There's no way to get PS3's heat issues in any form less than PS3 already; otherwise Sony would have laready done it. Thus the idea of a base unit enabling the full power of the handheld is little more than wishful thinking. At a push, they could employ the distributed processing patent in a new type of Cell and extend that to a base unit, but that's not the same as the handheld having the power of the PS3.
There's no way to get PS3's heat issues in any form less than PS3 already; otherwise Sony would have laready done it. Thus the idea of a base unit enabling the full power of the handheld is little more than wishful thinking. At a push, they could employ the distributed processing patent in a new type of Cell and extend that to a base unit, but that's not the same as the handheld having the power of the PS3.
I know I know.
But what would you actually gain by sending more data around (with rather slow speeds) and doing calculations on 2 devices? Just do everything on PS3 and just send back an image
Hmm... maybe you could attach an TV to the PSP2, while running the game on a PS3 (sitting below the TV), connecting a Dualshock 3 via Bluetooth to PSP2? That way you could all PS3 could be played on the PSP2.
I have no idea how Sony does it, or if at all. Quite a few high profile folks have commented on PSP2's capability. So it should be true in one way or another.
A more general RemotePlay should be fun. If Sony improved RemotePlay, I'm guessing it can be hacked to do the same thing for iPad and other devices. It's more a PS3 capability rather than a PSP2 feature.
A "power dock station", if Sony can do it, will have great implications also… [size=-2]especially *if* it comes with a gigabit Ethernet port.[/size]
A more general RemotePlay should be fun. If Sony improved RemotePlay, I'm guessing it can be hacked to do the same thing for iPad and other devices. It's more a PS3 capability rather than a PSP2 feature.
A "power dock station", if Sony can do it, will have great implications also… [size=-2]especially *if* it comes with a gigabit Ethernet port.[/size]
About OLED and 3g, nice news, great news but I cant help feel Sony is a little behind the times of Samsung's phones (such as mine) which have "SuperAmoled" screens (I think it is meant to be brighter) (soon "SuperAmoled Plus") and 4g...
Still I think "SuperAmoled" is mostly just a marketing term for proprietary Samsung tech, I'm sure 4G can be included later, etc.
Still I think "SuperAmoled" is mostly just a marketing term for proprietary Samsung tech, I'm sure 4G can be included later, etc.
OMG, Im starting to love this console more and more. As odd as it sounds it will be my first Playstation console ever. I dont usually like phones for gaming, neither I am keen on Apple -I always saw them as a cult, with expensive products and functions I could find elsewhere-.
I like Nintendo but their consoles are way overpriced for what they actually offer.
I truly hope Sony learnt their lessons and PSP2 will be a completely unhackeable console, supporting both physical drives and downloadable games, unlike the PSP Go.
I actually hope physical storage never disappear!!, so you can give a game to someone else as a gift, for instance.
Security is the key here. Homebrew is great, but piracy isn't. The work of so many talented people is serious stuff.
As for their bigger siblings I'm really happy with the 360 and I'm so very enamoured with Kinect right now.
I'd like to have a PS3 to play GT5 but it didn't meet the expectations, and having tried Forza 3 -my hatred towards Forza was overwhelming because I felt disappointed when Forza 2 came out- I think it's a really good game I'm having actual fun playing.
I think a console like PSP2 :smile: :smile: fits my future life style pretty well. Thumbs up Sony.
People change cellphones every 1-2 years. It'd be silly for Sony to chase the computing power trend. Once a baseline has been established, the more important value should be the services and software experience, … plus battery life.
They will have the PSPhone track for people chasing the latest cellphone tech anyway. As long as the phone meets the specs, they should be able to run their PSPhone software stack (whatever that means).
EDIT: The star here may be Playstation Network, as opposed to computing power or even the the "power dock" concept. RemotePlay actually fits the PSN story better.
jeff_rigby
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Smaller die size = more efficient .28nm or less cell
Slower clock speed, something under 2 Ghz
Remember it's only 4 SPUs not 7
more memory = more efficient
Better more efficient GPU
Still, it may be faster than a PS3 at some things. Less detail in Games a given. Same resolution as a PS3 1080P but games might be 480P unless connected to a PS3 or other cell platform. <maybe> Sold winter of 2011 with hand warmer feature. 2012 with 20nm cell run cool.
So how much? $299, $349 or $399???
Talking about all these specifications makes me really itchy to hear the price. If they don't tell us in their Jan 27 event then perhaps it's because they think we won't want to hear it?
… and whether it'll be subsidized.
By golly, no !
(Too late)
What information do they have to give out and what information can they hold to themselves at their Jan 27 event? It seems like they're really in a position with the 3DS coming out soon where they have to give out quite a bit to stop the industry/press from writing them off before they even release their console.
My guess is:
Specs
Release date
Tentative games
Price (if acceptable)
network features
Does that sound right to you?
I haven't been following this topic closely. Has there been discussions or rumors that the PSP maybe a tablet similar to the ipad, because thats the only way I think PS3 power could be feasible? Strip out the BluRay, put in a more power efficient, more up to date GPU, a slightly stripped down Cell on a smaller process and a big battery and a PS3P tablet maybe possible.
Maybe there are two devices, with intermingling rumors.
Maybe there are two devices, with intermingling rumors.
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On the contrary - a bigger display means less power available for the CPU and GPU.
Touchscreen is not expensive nowadays I believe. If 3G is expensive as to augment the hardware cost significantly, I want to see Sony release a wifi only option.
But here is what I really want Sony do. All SKUs have 3G for music, movies and games download. Connectivity
1. 3G but with no data plan (like Kindle). Service providers can still subsidize the device a little by having a portion on each music,movies, apps and games sold on their network. So it will work as though the service provider is a retailer.
2. 4G with data plan. The device will be more like a smartphone, but the heavy focus will still be on the gaming features. It will be heavily subsidize by service providers and it will come with expensive plans.
Hardware
1. Low-end version. 8gb and 16gb with 5 megapixel camera and LCD screen (that is if OLED is crazy expensive)
2. High-end version. 32 and 64gb with 16 megapixel camera (i know megapixel is not everything but most of the public is still not aware of that), and OLED screen.
Pricing
1. Low-end, no data plan is $149 8gb and $199 16gb.
2. Low-end, with data plan. 8gb is free, 16gb is $99.
3. High-end, no data plan is $299 8gb and $399 8gb
4. High-end, with data plan. 32gb is $199 and 64gb $299
I would also like the high-end version to be a slide-out keyboard at one side and slide-out button on the other side. It will make it very much like a tablet smartphone. And I want Sony to call the low-end version as Playstation Tablet and the high-end Playstation Tablet Smartphone.
Actually I want Sony to release an ultimate version. The reason is I think Sony needs to make a statement through that to gain respect from consumers, Sony's public image as a hardware company is plummeting. For the ultimate version, aside from the 16megapixel camera, S-master amplifier with noise cancelling (ala walkman X), 128gb of storage and a more robust build quality. It will come with a heavy price tag and will be a niche product compared to other versions. But it can build a good image to Sony as a company.
/end of dreaming
I think it will be very smart for Sony from a business standpoint not to use an existing OS like Android for the PSP2. They could introduce their own mobile OS competing against iOS, Android, Windows 7, and Palm OS. It will not be competitive right upon release but knowing how much homebrew apps were develop on the original PSP, it will not be hard for the OS to catch-up provided that they create an environment similar to iOS apps.
They can use that OS as the backbone for the PS4 and eventually on the future smartphones.
Looking at the success of Apple, the main factors their devices are very successful boils down to three things. Very responsive UI (cool factor), Uniform OS among their devices (interoperability), and of course the Appstore.
Using Android is of course a good choice. But from a business standpoint, I think it would be better in the long run to develop a proprietary OS based on linux as well.
Sony can use the PSP2 as the trojan horse for that OS as it was blu-ray for PS3.
They can use that OS as the backbone for the PS4 and eventually on the future smartphones.
Looking at the success of Apple, the main factors their devices are very successful boils down to three things. Very responsive UI (cool factor), Uniform OS among their devices (interoperability), and of course the Appstore.
Using Android is of course a good choice. But from a business standpoint, I think it would be better in the long run to develop a proprietary OS based on linux as well.
Sony can use the PSP2 as the trojan horse for that OS as it was blu-ray for PS3.
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Well iPod Touch sales cover that market, which is a fraction of the iPhone market. While I agree that some concession to this market should be made, it's definitely the wrong direction for Sony and Nintendo to move in.
The iPod touch is an iPod first and gaming platform second. Gaming is just another reason to buy an iOS device. If Sony were to go this route, they'd have to mimic Apple's business model and beat them at their own game; I simply don't think this is worth it. Sony makes money off game licensing and takes a loss on hardware, Apple sells hardware with healthy profit margins and uses either inexpensive or free content as an incentive to buy. Which is why iTunes accounted for only 2% of Apple's revenue last quarter, while sales of iOS devices accounted for 65%. I also doubt all those iPod touch users would migrate to a PSP2 even if it aped Apple's device, and doing so would effectively alienate the PSP's core audience.
As for those who bought iPod touches primarily for gaming, PSP2 would definitely be an appealing replacement.
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