AMD Radeon RDNA2 Navi (RX 6500, 6600, 6700, 6800, 6900 XT)

AMD’s Budget RDNA2 For Workstation Solution: Radeon Pro W6400 Review – Techgage
March 21, 2022
In this article, we’re taking a look at the third Radeon Pro GPU of the current generation to drop: W6400. For a multitude of reasons, this card is pretty interesting. Catering to the low-end part of the professional market, the W6400 has only 4GB of memory, no need for a power connector, and can be used either as a normal sized or low-profile card – the latter of which would be ideal for small form-factor PCs.
 
After the critically acclaimed RX 6500 XT blockbuster, AMD is ready to capitalize on the immense sympathy generated by their last RDNA2 family member with "RX 6500XT the revenge", aka RX 6400 XT.
To be fair, it's a RX 6400 (not XT).
FWIW, I think this could be a far better product than the RX 6500 XT. Navi 24 is cut down to the max, and then the 6500 XT goes in the opposite direction (with super high clock speeds, both on core and memory, sacrificing efficiency, increasing costs, with IHVs doing silly things like big triple fan coolers) to somehow try to make it look like a true gaming graphic card (which the chip is simply not designed for). The RX 6400 OTOH seems far more reasonable as long as you accept it's just an entry level graphic card (basically the successor to the RX 550 or maybe 560), and as long as it has an according price tag (meaning closer to 100$ than 200$).
 
Gaming is seen more serious these days…. Consoles going for 599, games 70 to 80 dollars each, expensive TV’s, vr gear, theres clearly a large market for a 1000 dollar gpu so why wouldnt amd? (And nvidia intel etc).
The positive thing is, you dont have to buy it, a 6800 or 3070 etc is going to offer alot of performance too. Even 3060Ti class gpus do very well.
 
In case of 6900XT specifically the bump from 6800XT price doesn't net you much in terms of product capabilities.
Exactly, a 1000$ GPU should be able to play games at max settings, in dozens of RT games the 6900XT would be relegated to a 3070 or below level of performance, in that case the user would better be served by a 3080Ti. Consequently, the future proofing aspect of the 6900XT looks pretty weak.
 
Well, looks like there still were people willing to pay 1k USD for the 6900 XT as it's sold out now at the AMD site. It was still in stock when I went to bed last night, so it took a fair bit of time compared to just a few weeks ago.

Regards,
SB
 
Exactly, a 1000$ GPU should be able to play games at max settings, in dozens of RT games the 6900XT would be relegated to a 3070 or below level of performance, in that case the user would better be served by a 3080Ti. Consequently, the future proofing aspect of the 6900XT looks pretty weak.
Well, it looks like AMD designed Navi 21, originally, as a "1440p" card, to compete with 3070. Then 3080 "disappointed" with its performance and so AMD got a break and raised the price of the entire Navi 2x range :mrgreen:
 
Well, it looks like AMD designed Navi 21, originally, as a "1440p" card, to compete with 3070. Then 3080 "disappointed" with its performance and so AMD got a break and raised the price of the entire Navi 2x range :mrgreen:
Navi 21 cards were launched at considerably higher retail prices than these of GA102 cards which points to an exact opposite situation here.
 
Navi 21 cards were launched at considerably higher retail prices than these of GA102 cards which points to an exact opposite situation here.

Hence the ...

Then 3080 "disappointed" with its performance and so AMD got a break and raised the price of the entire Navi 2x range :mrgreen:

Basically the 3080 was less performant than AMD was expecting so they took that opportunity to increase the price to align with the 3080 instead of aligning them with the price of the 3070.

The implication being that Navi 21 was predicted to compete more favorably with the 3070 during the design phase, but after the 3080 results came out they realized that they could compete with the 3080.

Obviously in non-RT workloads.

Regards,
SB
 
Basically the 3080 was less performant than AMD was expecting so they took that opportunity to increase the price of all cards in the product stack to align with the 3080 instead of aligning them with the price of the 3070.
Again, Navi 21 cards launched at considerably higher prices than these of GA102 cards. Not GA104 which is what 3070 is using but GA102. This points to AMD actually underestimating the perf/price of GA102 and ending up with products which where - initially at least - not competitive with GA102.
 
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