AMD Radeon RDNA2 Navi (RX 6500, 6600, 6700, 6800, 6900 XT)

w0lfram said:
You can not accept facts, those prices are currently on NewEgg and have been the same for 8 days strait for those 3 cards. You seem truly upset. Even a price cut of $10-20 here or there doesn't change the facts, and won't change the 3050's price/performance much...
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DegustatoR said:
The prices given by that member are purely fictional, which you yourself has confirmed by not being able to corroborate them. (The fact that you've found an even higher price instead means nothing.)
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Are you guys talking RRP, or actual available price? List price is immaterial if a card can't be got at that price.
 
DegustatoR said:
This "very simple question" assume that these are the actual prices.
Which they are not, as the last several pages have shown already.
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No-one actually qualified what they meant by 'price'. These are the 'actual prices' so arguing with Wolfram they aren't isn't going to get anywhere. But as these aren't the generally available prices, they aren't terrible useful at pricing a new build. So the discussion needs to politely identify a need to use actual market price to obtain a new GPU rather than MSRP.
 
DegustatoR said:
Market pricing of course.
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Yes but that is pointless -- because no card can be found for marketing price.
The only card that is remotely close to its market price is the 6500 XT.

Hence why the simple choice is, well, simple.

EDIT: Sorry I thought by "market price" you were saying "marketing price".

As for EU pricing: We can have a separate discussion about what a consumer in the EU should do. But then we can also have a discussion about what an Australian should do, Japanese should do, and so on. To keep things simple and consistent, we're only talking about the US for now.
 
DegustatoR said:
The prices given by that member are purely fictional, which you yourself has confirmed by not being able to corroborate them. (The fact that you've found an even higher price instead means nothing.)
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Reality is fictional. I cannot do more.

pharma said:
Price and availability will change every day, so it's just a matter of where you look. For the past few days I checked out Microcenter and their nationwide stores have had 3050 stock available for $419.
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Good to know. However, I was looking what can be bought online.
 
pharma said:
For the past few days I checked out Microcenter and their nationwide stores have had 3050 stock available for $419.
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"LIMITED AVAILABILITY - BUY IN STORE" (?)
This kind of "availability" can be compared to the limited stock of RX 6500 XT's available at launch for MSRP of $199 / €209. So even in this comparision RTX 3050 is twice more expensive than RX 6500 XT. I don't understand why to compare products with such different pricing. Radeon RX 6600 is widely available for $449, is 30-35 % faster in rasterisation, at least as fast as RTX 3050 in raytracing and still has lower power-consumption. RTX 3050 is horribly overpriced product. I understand, that RX 6500 XT isn't for everyone. But I can't understand the selective blindness of those who praise RTX 3050.

Fact #1: The card is horribly overpriced.
Fact #2: It's not a result of limited availability - the GPU is huge for a low-end product (276 mm²) and memory configuration is as expensive as memory configuration of RTX 3070.
Fact #3: With the limited resources, no manufacturer will prioritize a product with high (mainstream) manufacturing costs to sold it for low-end price.
 
Wesker said:
As for EU pricing: We can have a separate discussion about what a consumer in the EU should do. But then we can also have a discussion about what an Australian should do, Japanese should do, and so on. To keep things simple and consistent, we're only talking about the US for now.
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Speak for yourself, please.
And you surely know, where B3D is based, no? The world does not revolve around the US.
 
CarstenS said:
Speak for yourself, please.
And you surely know, where B3D is based, no? The world does not revolve around the US.
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Oh, please, get over it. I'm living in the UK, and I'm originally from Australia. What happens in US markets does not affect me directly. But keeping the discussion of GPU availability and pricing strictly in the US market -- the largest in the world -- keeps things simple and consistent.

Of course, one can nuance the discussion on pricing and availability by looking at the situation in each regional market such as the UK, Germany, France, Italy, Spain, Japan, China, and so on. But there's a reason why major hardware reviewers (e.g., HUB, who are based in Australia) focus on US pricing and availability when making general statements about value and availability.
 
pharma said:
Price and availability will change every day, so it's just a matter of where you look. For the past few days I checked out Microcenter and their nationwide stores have had 3050 stock available for $419.
Perceived availability and price is just too fluid and pointless unless you are always looking in the right place.
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489 USD when I looked just now. Sold out. And even if it wasn't I wouldn't be able to buy it anyway since it is in store only and there are no Microcenter stores within a few hundred miles of me. :p

25 stores nationwide. There isn't even one in every state. There isn't even one in half the states since some states have more than 1 store. :D

Hence, I only really look at stores where products are available to anyone in the US. But it's good to see that at least some people can get it for under 500 USD ... when it's in stock and not instantly sold out to scalpers. :p

Regards,
SB
 
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