AMD: R8xx Speculation

[Lightman]

No, they didn't. This is a pretty rediculous rumor.

To confirm that I've just ordered one from DABS - on private account it's £299.00 with free shipping , but I have reseller discount so I've got it a bit cheaper.

Browsing through shops so far NovaTech, CCLOnline, DABS had some stock left, but DABS is by far cheapest with 3 cards left for today! More to come tomorrow and next week!

THANKS guys for quick replies

PS. Dave, nice blog by Simon AKA NOMIS64 in your sig.

 

[Silent_Buddha]

No, they didn't. This is a pretty rediculous rumor.

Ah good to hear. So is supply still pretty limited for this week, or will things improve before the week is over?

IE - Do you know if there will be more shipments for this week? Or is what the retailers had all they will get until next week?

Regards,
SB

 

[neliz]

Ah good to hear. So is supply still pretty limited for this week, or will things improve before the week is over?

IE - Do you know if there will be more shipments for this week? Or is what the retailers had all they will get until next week?

Regards,
SB

stock left warehouses today, so most will be replenished this week

 

[Silent_Buddha]

stock left warehouses today, so most will be replenished this week

If it's shipped via ground shipping, may not hit the retailers until next week. But here's to crossing fingers.

Regards,
SB

 

[neliz]

If it's shipped via ground shipping, may not hit the retailers until next week. But here's to crossing fingers.

Regards,
SB

I know one retailer that had at least 30 5870's breaking the foundation of fuads horror story

 

[Dave Baumann]

IE - Do you know if there will be more shipments for this week? Or is what the retailers had all they will get until next week?

There is a daily production output and there will be regular stock replenishment. I think we can expect that, for this week at least, there will be daily stock input at the major etail sites.

 

[Silent_Buddha]

There is a daily production output and there will be regular stock replenishment. I think we can expect that, for this week at least, there will be daily stock input at the major etail sites.

Thanks Dave... In the process of building a new comp and was planning on putting the 5870 in there if the power envelope was as I was hoping. And reviews seem to indicate it's even better than I was hoping with regards to power consumption.

Regards,
SB

 

[Lightman]

Here's one!

Why would you need those anyway? Even Hitler's secretary knows it's a crappy game anyway!

Now it's your turn to find me Crysis DX10 Very High/Enthusiast 1920X1200/1080 NoAA!

The closest I've found for Crysis DX10 V.High ...

Not bad, I have a feeling I will be playing Crysis 3rd time (1st on 3870, 2nd on 4870 and now on 5870)

 

[3dilettante]

There some conflicting reviews concerning the rasterizer doubling.
One says AMD just bulked up a single rasterizer, another says there actually are two.

 

[trinibwoy]

There some conflicting reviews concerning the rasterizer doubling.
One says AMD just bulked up a single rasterizer, another says there actually are two.

Does it matter how it's stated? If the chip is capable of setting up one triangle per clock and producing 32 pixels per clock that's all you really need to know. Did anyone talk about the required increase in rasterization throughput when Nvidia went to 32 ROPs?

 

[elsence]

$379 and $259 are the pricing. A bit better than expected. All that leaked info and nobody got the real price right.

Anyway, the 5870 is pretty much a double 4890, and their clock speed is the same. So why isn't the performance anywhere near that?

There's the memory BW thing, but is that it?

It also seems to me pretty strange.

Memory bandwidth only problems doesn't show these kind of results imo.
There may be other problems also (for example maybe the design doesn't show its true colors because there are vertex and/or geometry performance issues or vertex and/or geometry shading related performance issues)

But again the performance in some games is very low in relation with what the specs suggest.

Anyway the 5850 at $259 (especially for a launch price without a DX11 competition) and with all the new features is excellent.

 

[3dilettante]

Does it matter how it's stated? If the chip is capable of setting up one triangle per clock and producing 32 pixels per clock that's all you really need to know.

One review said there were additional scan/raster units, but just one rasterizer.
One review said there were two rasterizers.

Did anyone talk about the required increase in rasterization throughput when Nvidia went to 32 ROPs?

Nvidia didn't add a second rasterizer to their diagrams, and didn't tell one reviewer one thing and a different reviewer another.
This kind of loose language is reminiscent of the UVD waffling that AMD did for R600.

 

[elsence]

I totally dont get this anandtech quote.



http://anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3643&p=24

Say what? I know that the game supports Only Control Panel AA for ATI. But since when were NVidia's 4x/8x MS modes not "Full Screen Anti Aliasing". Theres like no performance difference between a forced control panel AA ((For Nvidia with Unreal 3 hex mod)) than using the ingame selection. Or is Anandtech alluding to something else?

Small complaint. But I just don't know how they can print things like that. I dont even use the in game AA menu for Batman.

He probably meant with the word traditional: "through the control panel".
I don't know, but is the results (quality/consistency) the same with in-game option, in every single game case and in under every condition?

Edit* sorry, i just show rangers reply regarding this.

 

[CarstenS]

Does it matter how it's stated? If the chip is capable of setting up one triangle per clock and producing 32 pixels per clock that's all you really need to know. Did anyone talk about the required increase in rasterization throughput when Nvidia went to 32 ROPs?

But then - did Nvidia mention "dual rasterizers" in their launch presentations?

Not that I personally find it a big issue - it's image quality that counts and then, some time later, Fps.

 

[elsence]

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3643&p=3


If that's Juniper, does that mean Redwood is the chip that's 181mm²?

Why do I get the feeling that anandtech's article is horribly confused, generally.

Jawed

Me too.
Specs like 14 SIMDs or 192bit memory bus doesn't make sense.
I mean 192bit will result in 768MB or 1,5GB memory configurations, ATI tried to lower the cost using in the 58XX 256bit memory controller, it doesn't make sense to use 192bit from a business (and marketing) perspective (3/6/12 memory ICs for a performance/mainstream part)
And if the design has 128bit memory controller with 1Ghz GDDR5 mem and 56TUs will be for sure much more bandwidth limited than 5870.
This scenario doesn't add up at all.

 

[kyetech]

Where are the tech demos for this thing?

 

[Silent_Buddha]

Blast, looks like no more shipments to Newegg until Monday... Unless they get in some shipments of other brands.

Regards,
SB

 

[Sinistar]

I just ordered an XFX HD5870 from Newegg, as of this post, they are still in stock.

 

[Silent_Buddha]

Yeah they just added XFX at Newegg in the last 30 mins...

Managed to grab one before it went out of stock.

Regards,
SB

 

[Scrat]

First DirectX 11 title:



Not a test client, just the production one, patched just today