AMD: R7xx Speculation

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  1. Tchock

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    This would also bode well for the "100Mhz+ clock, virtually double bandwidth" leading up to 30% performance. But in the case of 800 it should be more.


    And the Vantage scores seem on the low side if so.
     
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    A GX2 scores ~X4500.
     
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    Seconded. A positively "big" that is at least from me. So, after all, maybe we're actually seeing 32 TMUs at work in that chip - a number I would not have deemed possible in ~250mm².
     
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    Do you have one for RV670? RV770 certainly doesn't look small. But how can it really be that big on 55nm and not be faster than we're hearing?

    I guess one way is 16TMU's and 800SP's :lol:
     
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    And 30% faster than the 4450 scores is x4400.
     
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    ? 30% faster than what score?
     
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    Something is not adding up:
    • Relatively large die size
    • Performance estimates ~ 9800GTX
    • 480 SP count
    Could the drivers be intentionally borked so that performance is lower?
     
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    You can find it here, but again different angle/tilt.
     
  11. Tchock

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    OSNAP!

    But I did suggest that such a scale was doable on 250mm^2 for a few times. :razz:

    If my sloppy Photoshop skills are suggestive of anything (using the measurement tool on slightly off scales, might deviate +-10%) the die is about 30% larger.

    I got a scale value of about 133%, of which 192*133% = 255.36 mm^2


    Information from Chiphell previously indicated 800SPs, a 256mm^2 die size, and they had the PCBs in January. To trust, or not to? :grin:
     
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    Not really that big after all:

    [​IMG]

    In this picture "light grey" is RV670. I've superimposed RV670 on top of RV770 (which appears "black"). I created this picture by scaling a board shot of HD3850 so that the mounting holes for the heatsinks coincide.​

    It looks like ~30% bigger, as rumoured.​

    Jawed​
     
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    Damn, looks definitely larger than that. But then - eyes can be deceived quite easily.
     
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    LOL, I can't believe we know more about GT200 than RV770 at this point... The two should basically be known quantities by now.
     
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    After some photoshopping...

    [​IMG]
     
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    My bet is that R580 had a different set of mounting holes.

    770 and 670 both have the X underlay and with similar coolers which probably indicates the same set.

    The review seemed like they used performance settings on the test, and just upped AA/AF.

    Not comparable to the real "Extreme" which has better textures, shaders, shadows and etc.
     
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    That was my initial assumption also, since R580 is somewhere around 360mm².

    But I just checked - at least R580 and RV670 are at ~535mm hole to hole (center).
     
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    I'd tend to doubt it. Still, it's quite possible that the drivers could be unintentionally borked. :smile:
     
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    I think that's something I would have noticed. They used the extreme setting. Says so right above the first graph.
     
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    Correct, I have mounted a x1950xtx cooler on a x3870. The only mod needed was to saw away some of the plastic at the PCI slot cover end.
     
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