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And then as regards to next-gen, the tie ratios, I'm actually pretty bullish on what I'm seeing so far. Certainly, Sony has done well with the PS4 at -- when you compare it to the first 2 months of their launch on the PS3. They're up to 2.1 versus 1.9. Microsoft is a little down, the 2.6 attach on Xbox One versus Xbox 360, and this is U.S. only, during that similar period for launch, but I think a lot of that has to do with the some of the bundling activity we saw on a global basis, but certainly here in the U.S. I think it's been a solid start for both and we're incredibly bullish that, that will continue in FY '15.
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Too bad Google does not have a Moore translator.
 
BoardBonobo said:
2.1 million copies according to the latest @PlaystationEU tweet.
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Link:

https://twitter.com/PlayStationEU/status/428633693427482625

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SALES OF PLAYSTATION®4 (PS4™) EXCLUSIVE SOFTWARE TITLE, KILLZONE™ SHADOW FALL, EXCEED 2.1 MILLION UNITS WORLDWIDE

The Highly Acclaimed PS4 Launch Title Makes Great Contribution to the Expansion of the PS4 Platform

Tokyo, January 30, 2014 – Sony Computer Entertainment Inc. (SCE) today announced that the global sales of the PlayStation®4 (PS4™) exclusive title, KILLZONE™ SHADOW FALL, exceeded 2.1 million units*1 as of January 15, 2014. The latest installment in the award-winning KILLZONE™ franchise delivers a compelling storyline along with rich gaming experiences. The title has received significant acclaim from users worldwide, and has made a great contribution to the expansion of the PS4 platform.

“I am thrilled that so many users have been enjoying KILLZONE SHADOW FALL since the launch of PS4,” said Shuhei Yoshida, President of Sony Computer Entertainment Worldwide Studios (SCE WWS). “This title fully embraces the creativity of the development team at Guerrilla Games*2 based in the Netherlands, and is a perfect representation of what SCE WWS has to offer. SCE will continue to deliver exciting software titles, and is currently developing more than 30 titles including DRIVECLUB™, inFAMOUS Second Son™ and The Order: 1886™, which offer entertainment experiences only possible on PS4.”

The KILLZONE series, exclusive to PlayStation® platforms, covers the conflicts between the Interplanetary Strategic Alliance (ISA) and the Helghast Empire. KILLZONE SHADOW FALL introduces a new chapter of the saga on the ISA's stronghold, Planet Vekta. Play as Lucas Kellan, an elite soldier/intelligence officer of the Vektan Government who faces various challenges to stop the terrorist group Black Hand from destroying the planet. Guerrilla Games has continued to release updates for the title after its launch in North America and Europe, such as game patches which offer better support on both single and multiplayer modes. The team is also currently working hard on a multiplayer expansion pack with additional features, as well as preparing two FREE multiplayer maps for the KILLZONE community. The release dates for the DLC will be announced shortly.

SCE will continuously expand the world of PS4 through the introduction of attractive software titles and network services.


*1 Includes both Blu-ray Disc™ sell-in quantities and download version sales on PlayStation®Store.

*2 A studio under SCE WWS which develops the KILLZONE franchise.
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Wonder how many were bundled?
 
I would say at least 20%. Many retailers in the US are forcing bundles on customers because the PS4's demand is so high. Most stores don't even sell the standalone SKU online. Killzone is usually the game that gets bundled. I bought a KZ bundle, but I was gonna buy it anyway. I'm sure it was the same for many of the people that bought the KZ bundle.
 
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DieH@rd said:
Gaf insider famousmortimer belives this latest torrent of MS leaks [game dates, confirmation of new games] is a consequence of bad January sales for Xbone
https://twitter.com/atPeteDodd/status/428787376492539905
https://twitter.com/atPeteDodd/status/428786945393975296

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Eurogamer - Sony: UK PS4 to Xbox One sales ratio is 1.5:1
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-01-30-sony-uk-ps4-to-xbox-one-sales-ratio-is-1-5-1
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It was 1.45:1, so slightly more tilt towards PS4.. wander if XB1 will be able to get some support from Titanfall to decrease that ratio in favor of PS4.. But from what i have heard PS4 is still not readily available
 
xcom_cheetah said:
It was 1.45:1, so slightly more tilt towards PS4.. wander if XB1 will be able to get some support from Titanfall to decrease that ratio in favor of PS4.. But from what i have heard PS4 is still not readily available
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More likely the ratio gets worse in the short term since the Ps4 supply is getting better. 1.5:1 was an artificial ratio do to supply constraints.
 
Infamous also comes out in March. I think Titanfall will probably sell more and move some hardware, but Infamous is also a pretty highly anticipated title. If Titanfall helps decrease the ratio, I don't see it being by much. If Sony puts a decent marketing budget behind Infamous and it is reviewed well, I can see it being a big hit, seeing as how both systems are pretty starved for software right now.
 
Ground Zeroes is also just 1 day away from Infamous, and MGS was always viewed to be a Sony-oriented franchise. I expect that its sales will have similar if not greater ratio like TR [aligned heavily to the PS4 side].
 
xcom_cheetah said:
It was 1.45:1, so slightly more tilt towards PS4.. wander if XB1 will be able to get some support from Titanfall to decrease that ratio in favor of PS4.. But from what i have heard PS4 is still not readily available
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Eh, too be honest he could have rounded off. the .05 is too specific to attribute to some generic talking head, although I support the exercise.

Shipments of PS4's say, on Amazon seem really dried up right now (and Best Buy finally lost stock the last few days, though to be fair that must have been one ginormous shipment). We would need actual sales to discover anything, but I wonder if GDDR5 is causing actual supply constraints (I remember some article about what a gigantic amount of GDDR5 was needed for PS4 launch, that if XBO had also sported GDDR5 there likely would not have been enough supply to go around)
 
What are the current bets\guesses on PS4 sales numbers (not shipped numbers)?

We've got XB at ~3.7 million shipped, probably ~3.5 sold?

I'm going for ~5.2 million PS4s sold, ~5.8 million shipped.
 
Rangers said:
Eh, too be honest he could have rounded off. the .05 is too specific to attribute to some generic talking head, although I support the exercise.

Shipments of PS4's say, on Amazon seem really dried up right now (and Best Buy finally lost stock the last few days, though to be fair that must have been one ginormous shipment). We would need actual sales to discover anything, but I wonder if GDDR5 is causing actual supply constraints (I remember some article about what a gigantic amount of GDDR5 was needed for PS4 launch, that if XBO had also sported GDDR5 there likely would not have been enough supply to go around)
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Sony is said to be shipping 200-400k more than MS a month, so I think they are shipping record numbers.
 
I think the Xbox One probably sold less than 500k in Jan. Maybe 300k to be generous. I think PS4 is probably creating up on 5 million, but not over yet.
 
BoardBonobo said:
What are the current bets\guesses on PS4 sales numbers (not shipped numbers)?

We've got XB at ~3.7 million shipped, probably ~3.5 sold?

I'm going for ~5.2 million PS4s sold, ~5.8 million shipped.
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At the end of the year, XB1 was at 3.9 shipped, 3.2 sold I think. Given the ~1 million a month estimate for shipped, that would put them at ~4.9 shipped right now. That number is really approximate because we don't know if MS is stockpiling for other launches or what their exact production capacity is. Just that it was around 1 million and that coincides with the numbers through December. No guesstimates for sold.

PS was supposed to be shipping around 200-400k more than XB1. At the end of the year, they were at 4.2 sold, unknown shipped (we don't know how many were in the channel even if they were sold out at retail). So adding 1.4 would put them at ~5.6 million shipped right now. There has been more availability of late, so I don't expect them to have sold quite that many. Avoiding guesstimates here as well. I just don't think there is enough concrete information.
 
Brad Grenz said:
I think the Xbox One probably sold less than 500k in Jan. Maybe 300k to be generous. I think PS4 is probably creating up on 5 million, but not over yet.
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The PS4 sold 4.2M in ~1.5 months up to December 28th. The holiday / launch craze is over, and Sony probably stockpiled PS4s before launch, but I think they've surpassed 5M by now. I think BoardBonobo's guess of 5.2M is a pretty good guess, but I think there are less PS4s sitting unsold... ~300-400K at most, so ~5.5-5.6M shipped. The launch in Japan should give the PS4 a nice little boost.

Last we heard from MS was 3M sold, 3.9M shipped. I'm guessing they're at ~3.5M sold, ~4.4-4.5M shipped.

Xalion said:
At the end of the year, XB1 was at 3.9 shipped, 3.2 sold I think. Given the ~1 million a month estimate for shipped, that would put them at ~4.9 shipped right now. That number is really approximate because we don't know if MS is stockpiling for other launches or what their exact production capacity is. Just that it was around 1 million and that coincides with the numbers through December. No guesstimates for sold.

PS was supposed to be shipping around 200-400k more than XB1. At the end of the year, they were at 4.2 sold, unknown shipped (we don't know how many were in the channel even if they were sold out at retail). So adding 1.4 would put them at ~5.6 million shipped right now. There has been more availability of late, so I don't expect them to have sold quite that many. Avoiding guesstimates here as well. I just don't think there is enough concrete information.
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It was 3M sold IIRC.

They may be able to ship at a rate of 1M a month, but if stores still have plenty of stock, they're not going to keep re-ordering. They had ~900K in transit and sitting on shelves. I think they've shipped another 500-600K tops.
 
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djskribbles said:
Last we heard from MS was 3M sold, 3.9M shipped. I'm guessing they're at ~3.5M sold, ~4.4-4.5M shipped.


It was 3M sold IIRC.

They may be able to ship at a rate of 1M a month, but if stores still have plenty of stock, they're not going to keep re-ordering. They had ~900K in transit and sitting on shelves. I think they've shipped another 500-600K tops.
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When u r expect plenty of stock and u expect only 500k sold then why u belive 500 - 600k will be ordered again.. These are low activity months and i dont think retailers will like to have large shipments in their warehouses to take up space when that item is not selling hotly. So i believe if retailers have sold 500k from the 900k then they wont be ordering more than 200k to keep inventory on the low side..

BoardBonobo said:
What are the current bets\guesses on PS4 sales numbers (not shipped numbers)?

We've got XB at ~3.7 million shipped, probably ~3.5 sold?

I'm going for ~5.2 million PS4s sold, ~5.8 million shipped.
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We will be getting Oct-Dec quarter shipment from Sony next week.. So we will know how much is their production and what are there revised forecast. I m sure they will not be keeping it same as they already are pretty near or surpassed 5M forecast for the fiscal yr ending Mar 2014
 
I originally said 100-200K but thought that was kind of low and changed it. I don't work in retail so I don't know how many units usually sit in warehouses in a situation where the item is not really supply constrained. But I think you're right, it's probably closer to 200k considering January is generally a slow month.
 
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