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Amazon still (sorta?) undefeated

I'm not that impressed with Xbox number if it only basically equaled last year.

Just goes to show yet again software has little to do with sales. PS4 had no noteworthy exclusives and won. It's always all about hardware (price distant second).

The price cut saw PS4 to a huge increase over last November.

Almost certainly now they take December too, with aggressive 299 pricing and the Amazon rankings.
 
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amazon failed last month (though it was very close)
I have a feeling Dec may be on par or even worse than november due to black friday and people getting more caught up with it each year, its like that now in NZ, everyone is so used to the boxing day sales, that dec 26 is now the biggest shopping day of the year.
i.e. parents now go to their kids, you'll get your main presents on december the 26th
 
Rangers said:
Just goes to show yet again software has little to do with sales. PS4 had no noteworthy exclusives and won. It's always all about hardware (price distant second).
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I disagree about software in general not mattering. Exclusives certainly don't seem to mean as much as they used to, though. Other factors carry similar weight now and many of those factors are in the PS4's favor. Not least of which is the "you buy what your friends have" factor and more people have PS4s, so...
 
zed said:
amazon failed last month (though it was very close)
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Actually it didn't. You had to subtract the Amazon PS4 November pre-order bundles sales (COD: Black Ops and Battlefront) from the October NPD. As such, MS had the edge with their current bundle sales during October.
 
Rangers said:
Amazon still (sorta?) undefeated

I'm not that impressed with Xbox number if it only basically equaled last year.

Just goes to show yet again software has little to do with sales. PS4 had no noteworthy exclusives and won. It's always all about hardware (price distant second).

The price cut saw PS4 to a huge increase over last November.

Almost certainly now they take December too, with aggressive 299 pricing and the Amazon rankings.
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What do you the ranking would be without software? IMO software matters quite a bit when you are in second place and trying to build momentum.
 
Shortbread said:
Actually it didn't. You had to subtract the Amazon PS4 November pre-order bundles sales (COD: Black Ops and Battlefront) from the October NPD. As such, MS had the edge with their current bundle sales during October.
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You also had to add in previous months of Halo bundle sales. Amazon is a lot harder to interpret the closer the sales are, but it still tells the future..
 
Is that confirmed or just your guess?
temesgen said:
What do you the ranking would be without software? IMO software matters quite a bit when you are in second place and trying to build momentum.
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You mean if Xbox didn't have Halo 5, Forza 6, TR: Rising, and Gears Ultimate the past few months, you think it would have fared much worse?

Probably would have sold about the same amount of consoles, honestly, IMO. It just doesn't matter that much.
 
Shortbread said:
Actually it didn't. You had to subtract the Amazon PS4 November pre-order bundles sales (COD: Black Ops and Battlefront) from the October NPD. As such, MS had the edge with their current bundle sales during October.
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It kinda did. Once you start getting into that sort of thing you can justify almost any result.

But yeah, only "kinda" not "for sure". But it's a gray area.
 
Rangers said:
It kinda did. Once you start getting into that sort of thing you can justify almost any result.

But yeah, only "kinda" not "for sure". But it's a gray area.
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I don't know how anyone would arrive to kinda.

Sure the PS4 lead Amazon's October top position... but that was soley based around November bundle pre-orders (Battlefront & Black Ops) being factored in. And the fact no previous months (September) of Halo 5 pre-orders didn't get factored in October for XB1.

Once you factored out the PS4 November pre-order bundles and factored in the Halo 5 pre-orders (which are actual October sales now)... then Microsoft did take Amazon's October top spot for actual sales (not pre-orders) during that month.
 
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How do you "factor those out" when you dont know how many there are?

You're retrofitting to fit the result to some extent.

At least that month the case was fairly solid, it could be the case in the future that it's not.
 
Zhuge said on twitter

It means that PS4 has sold 1 million more units in the US compared to the Xbox One as of November 2015
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I get (based on all my past numbers, where PS4 should have led by 834k going into November) this means PS4 only won Nov by ~166k? Am I crazy? Would it be ~1.5 mil PS4 and maybe ~1.35 XBO? Not too far from what we already have (PS4 probably around 1.5, and XBO "around" last year's 1.23) I guess.

I'm sure GAF is two steps ahead of me on that, haven't been keeping up to the second.
 
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Is that confirmed or just your guess?



You mean if Xbox didn't have Halo 5, Forza 6, TR: Rising, and Gears Ultimate the past few months, you think it would have fared much worse?

Probably would have sold about the same amount of consoles, honestly, IMO. It just doesn't matter that much.
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I think without that software it would have been a bloodbath
 
Rangers said:
Zhuge said on twitter



I get (based on all my past numbers, where PS4 should have led by 834k going into November) this means PS4 only won Nov by ~166k? Am I crazy? Would it be ~1.5 mil PS4 and maybe ~1.35 XBO? Not too far from what we already have (PS4 probably around 1.5, and XBO "around" last year's 1.23) I guess.

I'm sure GAF is two steps ahead of me on that, haven't been keeping up to the second.
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Zhuge also said the gap this month was 200k'ish, and that it sold close to what it sold last year. So I'm guessing <1.3M.
 
The PS4 US lead is around 1-1.2 million - correct? What was last year's separation (gap) during the December time-frame?
 
The gap last year was around the same.
https://zhugeex.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/3.jpg

Unfortunately for Tomb Raider, it seems like I might be right about it selling < 300k. Rumor at GAF seems to be that RoTR sold <200k.
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I think Tomb Raider traditionally sells better in Europe, where MS is really hurting outside of the UK. TR: DE sold 27,400 in its debut in the UK but only sold <85,000 in NPD's January report. With that in mind, it will be lucky to sell >300k in the US.

I think it will sell best on PS4 despite being released a year later. But I think sales will really suffer compared to the first one.
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