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This may be more a business thread comment/ question. Uncertain. Didn't the MS/ Bungie split contract contain a clause regarding MS having the right to make their games exclusive, probably through a large fee? Looking at the pre-order figures, I have to wonder how much they must be regretting that decision.
Destiny Sales spots from the above post:
4,5,12,16,17,55 - with the Destiny Ghost for the PS4, I believe, completely sold out.
Destiny Sales spots from the above post:
4,5,12,16,17,55 - with the Destiny Ghost for the PS4, I believe, completely sold out.
I'm not sure who 'they' is in your theory. Are MS regretting something, or Bungie? I think you're suggesting MS has the option to secure an exclusive from Bungie for lots of money and chose not to pay that fee for Destiny, and now may be regretting that choice as Destiny could have been for XB1 what Halo was for XB...er...one (the first one 
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).I'm not sure who 'they' is in your theory. Are MS regretting something, or Bungie? I think you're suggesting MS has the option to secure an exclusive from Bungie for lots of money and chose not to pay that fee for Destiny, and now may be regretting that choice as Destiny could have been for XB1 what Halo was for XB...er...one (the first one
The Bungie contract with MS is available online and MS had serious rights to Destiny. Most likely these rights were part of the COD negotiations with Activision, which is why Destiny is available on PS4.
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PS4 reached 10 Million. Just confirmed by Jim Ryan.
edit: Sold TO COSTUMERS.
edit: Sold TO COSTUMERS.
PS4 reached 10 Million. Just confirmed by Jim Ryan.
edit: Sold TO COSTUMERS.
That is impressive. I honestly didn't expect any next gen console to be off to such a quick start. I applaud Sony and how they have handled the rollout of the PS4, they absolutely trounced both Nintendo and Microsoft in their execution.
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I'd argue Nintendo and Microsoft trounced themselves with no help from Sony but let's not go there again!
Its Gamescom time, and Sony opened up its press conference with an impressive number: the company has already sold 10 million PS4s, giving it a solid foundation for the current console generation and, from the looks of it, a the sort of broad platform that developers are eager to release on. The electronics giant has seen some tough times recently, but this offers another reminder that the Playstation brand is as strong as ever. If the PS4 is selling this well already, one wonders what will happen when it actually starts getting a solid game library.
2015 is going to be a very long year for MS and Nintendo. Anyhow, PS4 should easily hit 14-15 million units sold by the end of 2014.
2015 is going to be a very long year for MS and Nintendo. Anyhow, PS4 should easily hit 14-15 million units sold by the end of 2014.
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Damn, didn't think they'd be able to reach 10M by gamescom... less than 10 months.
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Guesses at what it will be after holiday?
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At least 15m by years end.
djskribbles
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They sold 3M in 4 of the slowest months of the year (April-July). By the end of 2014, I can see them selling 15-16M.
I think it will be over 18M by year's end.
PS4 reached 10 Million. Just confirmed by Jim Ryan.
edit: Sold TO COSTUMERS.
Amazing. If they are at 10 million now, they will easily go over 15m before Dec 31 which is more than 4.5 months away. Maybe even up to 17-18. And Q12015 is filled with so many games, two of them being PS4-only titles [Order 1886 and Bloodbourne].
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A year ago I was positive that a single console wouldn't dominate this generation (PS3/360 all over again) but now I am not so sure. I just don't see the install base gap closing any time soon and if it keeps growing like this then it could be the PS2 era allover again.... if it isnt already by 1Q 2015.
Sony came strong and solid, MS fucked up so badly that it seems inconceivable. Inconceivable that no-one in a decision making position could see it coming and avert any of it.
Reveal tent. What was revealed in the reveal tent was basically Sony's victory. Sony basically got all the sales you would expect from PS3 migration, plus most of the sales MS might have expected from 360 migration. Great execution from Sony, the opposite from MS.
It would be awesome to have some kind of insight into the delusion within management at Xbox between 2010 ~ early 2014.
Reveal tent. What was revealed in the reveal tent was basically Sony's victory. Sony basically got all the sales you would expect from PS3 migration, plus most of the sales MS might have expected from 360 migration. Great execution from Sony, the opposite from MS.
It would be awesome to have some kind of insight into the delusion within management at Xbox between 2010 ~ early 2014.
These numbers still seem odd. I think most people had them short of 10 million, because well that was reasonable. Even Vgchartz had them at 9.3 million (just to give an idea of reasonable guesses, since that's what VGchartz does).
They announced 7 million April 6. So that's basically April, May, June, July. NPD was 199k, 197k, 269k, and pending July. I went and added all the media create weeks April 6-August 3 (not as hard as it sounds thanks to GAF archive thread), that came to 146,638. So rounded off you have ~820K PS4 sold in Japan+USA from April through ~now, pending July NPD and a week or so of media create (which is a paltry 5k of sales currently). GAF tells me NPD July runs through August 2nd so maybe you've got a little more sales between August 2nd and the 12 but then again Sony's numbers probably aren't up to the day either. So, whatever you wanna credit Sony for July NPD+~820k. 230k for PS4 in July NPD seems a reasonable guess so that be ~1,050,000, plus maybe a week of unaccounted August fudge from 2-9th (assuming Sony's numbers are even this up to date) you get to 1.1 million.
So, I guess that's a lot of consoles in Europe *shrug*. All that stuff I wrote about the Europe ratio being lower for PS4 seems to be correcting itself if these numbers are true.
This would put them ~2:1 over Xbox One too probably.
They announced 7 million April 6. So that's basically April, May, June, July. NPD was 199k, 197k, 269k, and pending July. I went and added all the media create weeks April 6-August 3 (not as hard as it sounds thanks to GAF archive thread), that came to 146,638. So rounded off you have ~820K PS4 sold in Japan+USA from April through ~now, pending July NPD and a week or so of media create (which is a paltry 5k of sales currently). GAF tells me NPD July runs through August 2nd so maybe you've got a little more sales between August 2nd and the 12 but then again Sony's numbers probably aren't up to the day either. So, whatever you wanna credit Sony for July NPD+~820k. 230k for PS4 in July NPD seems a reasonable guess so that be ~1,050,000, plus maybe a week of unaccounted August fudge from 2-9th (assuming Sony's numbers are even this up to date) you get to 1.1 million.
So, I guess that's a lot of consoles in Europe *shrug*. All that stuff I wrote about the Europe ratio being lower for PS4 seems to be correcting itself if these numbers are true.
This would put them ~2:1 over Xbox One too probably.
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