4K gaming and viewing review

Dr Evil said:
Nah that's how manufacturers often show that for some reason. "The PC-input" is most likely an old VGA-input" The HDMIs will most certainly be 2.0 version and supporting 4K 60Hz on PCs as well.
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Ah good point. Not like I can afford one anyways...
 
joker454 said:
The specs are odd, computer input only supports 1920x1080. So the device most capable of creating 4k content can only be displayed at 1080. Weak :(
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It's probably due to single DVI signals topping off at 1920*1200.

Computers these days have HDMI output (especially 4k generating ones) so I don't really see an issue.
 
Dr Evil said:
Yeah I kind of figured the price will have one zero too much, that's why I kindly asked if you guys could give me one :)
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Sure. When I order mine I'll just up the qty one increment and forward it along. Should be any day now. Just need to start buying lottery tickets...
 
Interesting that they're still using SXRD, which has been around a long time.

Does $40k include the speaker and storage units or are those extra?
 
I would bet they fall in the margin of error of $40k in any event. What's another $5k or so when you're spending 40.
 
You can get better speakers. It won't fit in the overall design but will be better.

At those prices, they're not manufacturing a lot. Probably a few hundred or thousand will be ever made.
 
Well. I finally got the TV setup last night. I'm moving in properly tomorrow (been going to the house after work to setup furniture)
Will finally get to hook up the PS4 and 4K server tomorrow too.

The TV is pretty damn good. I was concerned the black levels were going to be poor, but when setup right it seems very good for an LCD. The backlight has some pretty bad clouding issues when the backlight is high, but my previous edge led TV did too when I first got it (seemed to reduce significantly with time) - so I presume it'll take some time to break in.

I have to say, the passive 3D is exceptional. No eye strain, no flicker, no ghosting.

I bought some led-strip lights to illuminate behind the TV too :mrgreen:
 
Dr Evil said:
I had a birthday yesterday, but I still see no projector? I was certain that it would have popped up yesterday.
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I think this should be decided based on post count, which everyone knows is the most important thing in the universe. Mods not included (sorry Shifty honey), and the winner should be based in Europe because I say so (sorry patsu).
Which means.... I win! OMG thank you guys!!
 
Shifty's Bitch said:
I think this should be decided based on post count, which everyone knows is the most important thing in the universe. Mods not included (sorry Shifty honey), and the winner should be based in Europe because I say so (sorry patsu).
Which means.... I win! OMG thank you guys!!
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Dude, if it's a choice between being a mod and getting one of these babies, I'll resign my commission!!
 
Graham said:
Well. I finally got the TV setup last night.
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Well damn at first I thought you were talking about the 40k Sony projector, I was really impressed! All this 4k talk lately has been getting me to rethink my own websites and how I film the content, and I think I'm going to switch to all 4k recording as well. Yeah it'll take some years for peoples tv's to be 4k but heck my customers all use laptops, tablets and phones many of which are already way past 1920 x 1080 resolution. Time to step up my game! Fortunately Sony has some killer 4k cameras about to come out, I pre-ordered their AX100 which comes out in March. That gives me another excuse to upgrade our main tv to 4k as well. I thought about doing it for pc gaming but didn't want to splurge just for that one thing. Now I have a business reason as well :) From the sound of it though from what Robert and others have said it seems like I'd be better waiting some more on the 4k tv front.
 
joker454 said:
Well damn at first I thought you were talking about the 40k Sony projector, I was really impressed! All this 4k talk lately has been getting me to rethink my own websites and how I film the content, and I think I'm going to switch to all 4k recording as well. Yeah it'll take some years for peoples tv's to be 4k but heck my customers all use laptops, tablets and phones many of which are already way past 1920 x 1080 resolution. Time to step up my game! Fortunately Sony has some killer 4k cameras about to come out, I pre-ordered their AX100 which comes out in March. That gives me another excuse to upgrade our main tv to 4k as well. I thought about doing it for pc gaming but didn't want to splurge just for that one thing. Now I have a business reason as well :) From the sound of it though from what Robert and others have said it seems like I'd be better waiting some more on the 4k tv front.
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I am really encouraged by the fact that manufacturers are serious at improving image quality beyond just the increase in resolution. Stuff like Dolby Vision being in the Vizio reference set (and no 3D to be found!) really addresses my concerns about the industry focusing on the wrong things. The whooping they have been taking might actually have beat some sense into the product development teams at some of these companies!
 
RobertR1 said:
Over the holidays I picked up the 65inch Sony 4K set that doesn't come with speakers and has active 3D vs passive. I have no need for either. My goals were simple. PQ benefits over my calibrated Pioneer Kuro 151.

The Sony set: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/65-clas...9066831831&skuId=1912267&st=sony 4k&cp=1&lp=3

I have 4 video sources going into an Onkyo receiver and then to the HDMI port of the TV.
Sources:
Xbox One (gaming and blu ray)
HD DVD player. HD-A35 the final flagship model by Toshiba
Motorola Comcast HD DVR
AppleTV latest gen as of this post

I then found a few post calibrated settings from AVSforum and home theater mag. I used these as a baseline to come to a picture that worked for me.

My viewing distance is 13ft away.

Resolution:
Static resolution is the area where the 4K Sony shines beautifully. Give it static or slow moving images and the resolution bump is beautiful. BluRay's and HD DVD's that do not contain a lot of action look great. For gaming, AutoVista in Forza 5 looks phenomenal. Even thought these are 1080p sources, the upscaling to 4K is a very noticeable benefit. Unfortunately, this is where the set starts showing major limitations.
Once motion is introduced the effects of 4K start to diminish rapidly. By the time you're dealing with fast paced action or games, the Pioneer actually seems to preserve the quality better. This set is simply not able to keep up with fast motion while preserving resolution quality.

Panel response:
In Game mode, the response time seems fine as the panel auto enables and grays out "maximum panel speed" option. You still have options to adjust other settings to turn the PQ. I'd say the Plasma and LCD are close enough to work well. Remember though, as above, when action fast the resolution on the LCD actually seems worse.

Off axis viewing:
If PQ is of any concern and at the cost of this set, it should be! then you best sit dead center or slightly to the sides to get the best out of it. Horizon and vertical off axis performance to me, is unacceptable. I'm often watching TV from an angle while at my desk and it's not a possibility with this set. The Pioneer plasma wins this hands down.

Gaming impression:
Forza 5 = Looks great in autovista but when racing, the resolution benefits are not noticeable.
Killer Instinct = The IQ is cleaner when the action is idle but drops off quickly once you start fighting and landing combos
Battlefield 4 = surprising nice bump in IQ which is preserved better when you're outdoors. Once in CQB and quick movement, the benefit disappears


My recommendation for now would be to wait for the 2nd gen of 4k displays. What good is a bump in resolution if you lose most of it when things start moving on the screen? Next year should also hopefully give us the BluRay 4k format along with HDMI 2.0 throughout the component range. The biggest thing to look for is a bump in panel speed which will preserve the benefits of 4K. Off axis can be subjective based on your viewing requirements but that's another area needing massive improvements.
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Can it play YT at 4K ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHKJ5eE7I1k
 
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