Well it was delayed due to BR diodes otherwise it would have been released only with a few months difference, but they did aim high. HDMI and HDD were standard, it had BR, Cell and XDR memory. GPU was somewhat behind. But yeah in terms of performance in total it wasnt much better than the 360. Both MS and Sony though tried to get something out that was state of the art
Sony PS6, Microsoft neXt Series - 10th gen console speculation [2020]
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In terms of "total performance" (subjective, and I'm talking in terms of games only) I don't think PS3 ever did fully catch up with the 360. The GPU was, and always will be, worse. The 360 had a remarkably forward looking GPU (and a better memory architecture). Even with the delay, Sony had to downclock the GPU from 550 mhz to a 360 matching 500. At the time of the PS3 announcement I think Sony were more focused on disrupting a genuine threat then being honest about what was realistic for their machine. (Insert joke about Killzone CGI being stated as running on a PS3 here).
PS3 aimed high as a product, but not especially high as a modern efficient graphics workhorse. Under Cerny, Sony have targetted having a potent, cost efficient GPU (like the 360 did) and that's worked out for them just great. Unlike MS, who went from the 360 to ... Xbone. An expensive console with a weak GPU and BOM increasing features stuffed in everywhere for unrealistic Unicorn benefits for MS that the evaporating customer base was supposed to pay for ... for MS's benefit, not the customers'.
Note to MS: the 360 wasn't directly tied to matching exactly what was available and standard on the PC at the time of its launch, like Xbone and SeriesY. And the 360's software could have showcases that took advantage of the 360 and didn't have to launch simultaneously and identically on much older and competitor systems.
Whatever MS do with their next console - if they even do one - they need to give it the chance to succeed instead of dooming it by giving it almost none of the advantages of being console while having none of the advantages of being a PC.
What do you call the Xbox app (which btw comes with Windows lol, they literally bundle it with the de-facto gaming OS and still nobody uses it).
If Epic giving away free games doesn't entice people to switch, what could MS possibly do here?
I was thinking about what if steam will produce small factor pc like console apporx ps6 level or higher performance. You just plug this in and have acess to your steam store and all games you purchased last 10-20 years or so. No need for remakes, remasters, anything you purchased is already here. And it works with any fightstick, controller etc etc you already own. This could be strong blow to sony/msft.
I remember at the ps3 reveal when somewhere it was mentionned 2Tflops.
Well, it's their job to figure that out.
Hahaha, good old marketing joke...
Yes, possible, or the merger of the two companies?
Why not just build a small form factor PC?
Easy of use, you just buy a product build like a console XSX/PS5 style. Not everybody has a skills to do that, its easy to build normal pc yet many people choose to buy already assembled PCs.
Surely some do it. But for the average consumer having a product ready out of the box is more marketable, directly accessible, plug and play and thus convenient.
Wrong thread. This is a technical prediction of next-gen consoles. Definitely not another "PC versus console" discussion!
This is hilarious
What's even funnier is that, back then, 1.8 of those 2 TFLOPS were attributed to the RSX. So instead of making up magic numbers with Cell they did so with the RSX. Which is weird considering how they pushed Cell at the time.
I honestly can’t see what a next gen console brings to the table if they’re going to with off the shelf midrange parts again,
I guess it bumps the baseline for specs? I don’t see either ms or Sony having the appetite for something bespoke. The cost and risk is too high.
Instead both will focus on packaging optimisation of upcoming amd tech with a view of cost reduction via node shrinks. I’d love to be wrong but can’t see it.
I guess it bumps the baseline for specs? I don’t see either ms or Sony having the appetite for something bespoke. The cost and risk is too high.
Instead both will focus on packaging optimisation of upcoming amd tech with a view of cost reduction via node shrinks. I’d love to be wrong but can’t see it.
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I think they were somewhat provoked by MS though
https://www.eetimes.com/custom-powerpc-drives-xbox-360-to-teraflop-performance/
It brings better hardware for console users. That’s essentially what every generation is when you break it down.
Consoles are rarely meant to appeal to people on PC who have been beating consoles for years before the new one comes out.
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They'll both, assumedly, be x86 based and most likely offer an evolution of more modern AMD offerings. Not to be a downer, but what kind of differentiator can a next gen Xbox or PS be expected to bring this time around?
The major thing I remember being technically "exotic" with the Xbox Series X and the PS5 were how they both used different techniques, with compression and a few hardware tweaks, to speed up storage access. Which is great! But didn't seem to give either console an edge in anything in particular. But perhaps I never understood the advantages adequately? Which isn't unlikely.
The major thing I remember being technically "exotic" with the Xbox Series X and the PS5 were how they both used different techniques, with compression and a few hardware tweaks, to speed up storage access. Which is great! But didn't seem to give either console an edge in anything in particular. But perhaps I never understood the advantages adequately? Which isn't unlikely.
The upside is that Flight Simulator 2024, for example, runs and looks as good on the Series X as it does on a PC costing twice as much. If I turn on TV interpolation, which produces fully playable input lag for this game, I get a butter-smooth 120FPS experience on console at 4K, which is like playing on a PC that costs four times as much. However, this is only a rare example, most games do not perform this well, not even close.
The real advantage of consoles is still simplicity. You buy it, then turn it on comfortably from the bed or sofa and it works with two button presses. No matter how simplified the PC game has become, it still requires a lot of settings at the beginning, so it still cannot provide this plug and play simplicity.
Until they come up with something similar for PC, it will remain the same for the next consoles.
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