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big improvement in rather quick period of time
Digital Foundry Article Technical Discussion [2025]
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The DLSS glazing is wild since they both upscalers look bad in this game. While one might be better in certain aspects than others, the end result is that it still looks bad. The problem with all ML upscalers is that for the most part, when fed low input resolutions, they all struggle. This is true regardless of DLSS, PSSR, or XESS version in my experience. Even with DLSS4, it's artifact city based on their own videos and seems rather easy to break. I had to stop keeping track of the artifacts I noticed and it wasn't just their videos either. Other DLSS4 videos from other content producers have similar artifacts.
Alex questioning the purpose of "PSSR"? it's actually very logical. Having your own technology means that you can remain vendor agnostic. If they decided to switch to another vendor for a new console, their games won't have a software dependency to a proprietary upscaler which they'd need to license. I mean, it's pretty obvious that I'm surprised the question was even asked at all. That combined with the fact that AMD still has nothing. They're still trying to beta test fsr4 as we speak....
Finally the comment about not having to discuss DLSS issues on pc is head scratching since DLSS in its current iteration on pc is artifact ridden when fed low input resolutions. Even in their Nvidia preview video with all the DLSS4 glazing, they pointed out noticeable flaws with DLSS3 that were fixed with the new CNN. So to make that comment, quite head scratching indeed....
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It'll be interesting to re-visit that DLSS vs PSSR comparison in a couple of weeks with the NV App override and DLSS4 transformer model.
DavidGraham
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I dont think you license upscalers
RTX Hair is making a lot more sense to me now. NVIDIA has plenty of reference material.
GhostofWar
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Bryan and Malcom are fantastic spokesmen for Nvidia, they very much remind me of listening to Carmack. Their enthusiasm for their work shines through and it just gives me an energy to keep watching even when I have little knowledge of thermodynamics or machine learning.
Must have been a cool moment for DF when Bryan had watched Rich's video and new exactly what Alex was talking about.
Thanks for the interview Alex, I am incredibly curious about what you possibly spoke about off camera though
Comments on his hair increase each video, you know you have to ask him if he has used AI to optimize his hair care regiment next time right
Must have been a cool moment for DF when Bryan had watched Rich's video and new exactly what Alex was talking about.
Thanks for the interview Alex, I am incredibly curious about what you possibly spoke about off camera though
Comments on his hair increase each video, you know you have to ask him if he has used AI to optimize his hair care regiment next time right
Agree with some of what you're saying, but when you say these are 'bad', we're not really getting to see the alternative which would be these games at a blurrier native res. Yes, these upscalers of any type(including AI-based ones) fare worse the lower resolution you go, but in most all cases, the end result is still usually preferable to using native res. I know some people may say there's still fine with native 1080p and whatnot, but I dont think most people with next gen-capable hardware really are anymore. Definitely not in these more presentation-heavy AAA games.
I was super impressed with Bryan in this interview. He gave answers that were both informative and diplomatic. Usually you can get one of those but not both.Bryan and Malcom are fantastic spokesmen for Nvidia, they very much remind me of listening to Carmack. Their enthusiasm for their work shines through and it just gives me an energy to keep watching even when I have little knowledge of thermodynamics or machine learning.
Must have been a cool moment for DF when Bryan had watched Rich's video and new exactly what Alex was talking about.
Thanks for the interview Alex, I am incredibly curious about what you possibly spoke about off camera though
Comments on his hair increase each video, you know you have to ask him if he has used AI to optimize his hair care regiment next time right
Great point. So many comparisons are made between 4K upscaled and 4K native while ignoring the performance and cost implications. A more relevant comparison is 1440p vs 1440p upscaled to 4K as that’s the real decision facing an end user with a fixed GPU budget.
well spoken guy and very chill to talk to, nVidia is in great hands.
My favourite sentence of the video: "DLSS has something for everybody". And even most interesting is that the older games that featured FG via DLSS, now can run with DLSS4 MFG without even changing the game at all!
heheheh, just went the other way around, got a 360Hz 1080p monitor for motion clarity. I should have it at home by wednesday might share my impressions.
But now with nVidia MFG and apps like LS, there isn't going to be a distinction between hight Hz esports monitors and regular monitors. Single player games can finally benefit a LOT in the motion clarity department with the 240Hz, 360Hz, 500Hz, 750Hz etc, displays.
And they talk in the video about monitors with thousands of Hz.
Crazy.I like the guy's hair. Dunno it it's modelled with AI, but it's like L'oreal, "because you are worth it". xD
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He stole it off Romero
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