I think this makes little sense imo. These are firmly budget GPUs, how many people buying budget GPUs are also using modern CPUs with modern chipsets? A good many budget buyers are getting by with older AM4 products.
Given that they will need to continue shipping iGPUs with every CPU they sell, they certainly won't stop investing in developing the next gen IPs. Productizing the IPs to a discrete product is still a cost but if the IP is competitive, it should be relatively low cost. So I think we'll continue to see dGPUs from Intel, but perhaps only mid range or lower.
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quite interesting. I wouldn't expect these new GPUs to be made for older CPUs, it makes no sense whatsoever, but even a 5600 CPU isn't best suited for them compared to the RTX 4060, which is quite surprising, and wouldn't make it a candidate for me -I have 3700X CPU-. Since I have an A770 already, I'm more interested in Celestial and Druid tbh.
the graph below exemplifies the issue. Whether it's caused by the drivers (maybe the A770 should be re-reviewed, just in case it has the same problem), or there is other issue, the 4060 would be a much better buy for people like me with a mediocre CPU nowadays, which was decent in the day, like my 3700X.
ah ok, that explains it.
It's pretty unfortunate that these $200-$250 cards only perform like they do in reviews when paired with a $500 CPU. Not sure what reviewers should do about this, other than what HUB did and test it on multiple CPUs. But then what is the verdict? Any conclusions when tested on a 9800X3D are borderline pointless, since you don't know which games will take a huge hit on a CPU that would actually be used with these cards.
the ball is in Intel's court. Only them know what is happening.
That's impressive, but the real competition will be Navi 44.
That's pretty impressive. I didn't look but did they show CPU power consumption as well? I'm wondering if the CPU is getting hit harder on the Intel GPUs, which could offset some of the observed power gains. Especially on a modern Intel CPU (space heater).
yeah, they show the CPU's power consumption at all. There doesn't seem to be an issue, the CPU's power consumption with the B570 is normal compared to the other cards, still, that 110-120W power consumption average for the RTX 4060, the 80W average power consumption of the B570, and the 160W-170W power consumption average for the 7600XT throughout the video is something that other reviews are missing.
It looks like they're not reporting it correctly in software. Or it's only measuring the GPU die rather than full board power, like AMD used to do. Reviewers that directly measure the voltage and current in and out of the GPU (e.g. TPU and GN) are measuring about 150 W.
that sounds a bit more realistic, that's a tad higher than the 4060. Not that impressive then. Still ok taking into account the price of the videocard, just not impressive.
