I can see this with the naked eye in Dragon's Dogma 2 even with framegen on. Sometimes the game will start stuttering really hard for no apparent reason and then stop for no apparent reason. It's not reproducible and I have no idea what causes is. At least it's pretty rare for that to happen.
Unfortunately, LG Display's latest quarterly report lumps revenue from panels for monitors, laptops, and tablets together at 40.5% of the company's total revenue, so it isn't possible to get an exact number for monitors alone. But I'll bet that panels for monitors make up no more than around half of that 40.5%, and the vast majority of those monitors are just regular office monitors. Gaming monitors are a niche within the overall monitor market, and premium gaming monitors with the highest possible Hz and lowest possible pixel response times and blur would be a niche within that niche. One would expect that the share of the R&D budget that goes towards panels for premium gaming monitors would be proportional to their small share of revenue.
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NxGamer tested with a 5600X+6800 and found the PS5 performs 22% better. In this game where AMD massively underperforms, that puts it in line with a 3070 Ti.
Spider-Man 2 and Rift Apart weren't built with the PS5 in mind?
The realities of development didn't allow for either to have tech pushed much beyond PS4 games. Well made games but I expect big improvements over both by generations end.
My thing with this is PS5 is just running a PC architecture, and yet when ported to PC these games not only run worse overall but run worse specifically on RDNA cards. You’d think if it was hyper-optimized for an RDNA console then AMD cards would get a free bump over Nvidia, but this doesn’t happen (except for COD, the actual lone exception where AMD outperforms Nvidia).
I would say it's absolutely optimized for console, otherwise these devices wouldn't be getting the output that they do compared to the PC equivalent parts. They can fully take advantage of hardware, code paths, low level access and design paradigms that are super ideal for processing but perhaps inefficient on PC due to the difference in architecture and goals.
Right but what difference in architecture?? This isn’t Cell, it’s two desktop level architectures (Zen and RDNA), those optimizations should carry over to PC, at least somewhat (and certainly relative to Nvidia!)
The API on PS5 is completely different and seemingly far superior to DX. PS5 exclusives will take full advantage of all the fast paths and hardware functionality that isnt exposed on PC. Multiplatform titles are unlikely to go this route as it complicates development for the other versions of their game. In those scenarios, optimizations are more likely to carry over. In the case of Sony ports, minimal budgeting seems to be allocated so efforts are probably focused on getting the game to function properly and whatever is left they dedicate to Nvidia for marketshare reasons.
As others have stated, consoles have UMA - they share the same memory pool. PCs have separate system memory and VRAM. That makes a difference for titles that were designed for a specific console first, wringing out every drop of performance from that platform, and are ported to PC later.
Yeah this all makes sense to me, more of a software/hardware interface issue than a hardware architecture situation. Explains how PS5 does well vs Xbox despite the hardware differential.
Wouldn’t unified memory be a performance drag? I can’t think of many scenarios where two unshared pools of memory are worse than a single pool, unless the former are comically slower than the latter.
There was an interview, done by DF I believe, where a developer stated that one of the code paths used in a Sony title couldn’t be replicated on PC due to DX limitations. The workaround was a lot slower.
