Electric Vehicle Thread!

[cheapchips]

So the boot is very limited, because it looks to be shaped kind of like a stub compared to SUVs?

Passenger space is okay but the cargo space seems more limited.

They also have the Niro and the Kona, which are $10-15k less than the Ioniq 5/Kia EV6 class of cars.

I think also in the US, they have grander expectations. They have a Kia 3-row SUV EV and they plan to introduce another under the Ioniq brand.

They might do better to introduce more of a minivan, with sliding side doors on either side. ICE minivans are popular in the US. VW introduced the ID.Buzz but the price is pretty high. I don't know if they're roomier than most SUV EVs but probably better for families with the side door.

The boot's 238 - 350 litres depending on where you have the back seat. For a car that's under 4m that's really good. It's more of a 1-2 person car where 2 more people get to be passengers in comfort. Since the seats fold completely flat, it'll be amazingly versatile for a couple.

Kia start selling the PV5 van next year. They'll be a passenger version of that. It's ID Buzz (SWB) sized. Not sure if that'll come to the States, but they did show it at CES so assume so.

 

[MfA]

But only 2-doors and a hatch, not 4 doors and a hatch.

Nah, it's 4 doors.

 

[Sxotty]

Mercantilism isn't about giving hand outs indefinitely, the party eventually stops and then you're suddenly a third world country unable to build anything nor export anything but natural resources. Having a bunch of EVs you can't maintain is a poor replacement for autarky.

Ideally we'd live in a global kumbayah of comparative advantage, but alas we don't.

Of course, I just meant if the UK didn't care about making cars they can get Chinese citizens to pay for their cars, sell the scrap to EU automakers and then the EU countries can build cars with the scrap subsidized by Chinese citizens. This only is a helpful strategy if the UK didn't care about building cars. In the end when China gets tired of paying for other countries to transition to EVs the EU will still build cars and the UK can just buy from there instead if they prefer. It will make China a large automaker but they already are. China will likely own the market in developing world as well. They probably will anyway, not to mention the resources there. China is the main new colonial power. It is the race for Africa again with China and Russia. Instead of the Europeans.