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They didn't "quit Nvidia", they quit GPU market altogether.Remember why EVGA quit NVIDIA?
They didn't "quit Nvidia", they quit GPU market altogether.Remember why EVGA quit NVIDIA?
Lol that's basically arguing over semantics at this pointThey didn't "quit Nvidia", they quit GPU market altogether.
They didn't quit "at this point" though, they did it back when everyone was packing money from mining sales suggesting that whatever was their reasoning it had nothing to do with Nvidia.Lol that's basically arguing over semantics at this point
Err, they explicitly stated it's because of NVIDIA, one of the reasons being not being told final prices before they were announced publicly by NVIDIA at launch.They didn't quit "at this point" though, they did it back when everyone was packing money from mining sales suggesting that whatever was their reasoning it had nothing to do with Nvidia.
Sure. I didn't believe this for a second though.they explicitly stated it's because of NVIDIA
Well that should surprise no-one hereSure. I didn't believe this for a second though.
AFAIR Steve from GN didn't believe it either, and no one who was paying any attention should. You did though, and yes, this doesn't surprise no one.Well that should surprise no-one here
Here's direct quote from Steve from GN: "So EVGA complaints about NVIDIA we think are valid. So complaints about them not receiving information prior to Jensen Huang getting on stage and announcing the part, that's a little ridiculous and it is a problem. So that's a valid complaint."AFAIR Steve from GN didn't believe it either, and no one who was paying any attention should. You did though, and yes, this doesn't surprise no one.
My memory is fine. It's you who need to re-watch Steve's videos on the topic and understand the difference between a complaint being valid and it actually being the reason to quit the business completely.Please refresh your memory next time better.
They said NVIDIA is the reason they quit making GPUs, effectively ending the company. They were always a cut above all the other AIBs in my experience. Of course anyone could be lying but there's no reason for me to doubt them.They didn't quit "at this point" though, they did it back when everyone was packing money from mining sales suggesting that whatever was their reasoning it had nothing to do with Nvidia.
Which is what was disputed by Steve and what I don't believe at all.They said NVIDIA is the reason they quit making GPUs, effectively ending the company.
Well that's your choice - to trust one interested side in a two side story.Of course anyone could be lying but there's no reason for me to doubt them.
Evga lost 80% of their revenue from this "good move" and if it was an Nvidia problem then they would've switched to AMD and/or Intel. It is rather clear that the decision was not made because of how Nvidia treated them, and yeah it is a secret how Nvidia treat its board partners - again you're choosing to believe a side in a two-side story which only shows your own bias.In any case it's no secret that NVIDIA treats its board partners like unwanted stepchildren. Seems like an awful company to be reliant on. Good on eVGA for ending an abusive relationship.
Could you provide a specific where Steve disputed this?Which is what was disputed by Steve and what I don't believe at all.
That's a bit different from the reason why they left the GPU market as a whole. I believe the major reason eVGA did not continue in the GPU market with another IHV was the business model is basically the same, if not more restrictive due to geographical restrictions on where they could sell. I can't blame eVGA for wanting increased margins and if we assume nVidia complied it would have meant striking similar deals with the other AIBs. To me if was almost a catch-22 scenario where even if nVidia wanted to do eVGA good if would have possibly meant a reduction in revenues with all their AIB partners.In any case it's no secret that NVIDIA treats its board partners like unwanted stepchildren. Seems like an awful company to be reliant on. Good on eVGA for ending an abusive relationship.
Edit: RPSCThat's a bit different from the reason why they left the GPU market as a whole. I believe the major reason eVGA did not continue in the GPU market with another IHV was the business model is basically the same, if not more restrictive due to geographical restrictions on where they could sell. I can't blame eVGA for wanting increased margins and if we assume nVidia complied it would have meant striking similar deals with the other AIBs. To me if was almost a catch-22 scenario where even if nVidia wanted to do eVGA good if would have possibly meant a reduction in revenues with all their AIB partners.
GN made a couple of videos on the topic back when it happened (end of 2020?), both contain Steve's thoughts about the complain given by Evga not actually being the main reason to quit the GPU business completely.Could you provide a specific where Steve disputed this?
Took you a while to come back with a generalization without any examples when asked for specifics.GN made a couple of videos on the topic back when it happened (end of 2020?), both contain Steve's thoughts about the complain given by Evga not actually being the main reason to quit the GPU business completely.
I'd love to hear some alternative theories. Did Steve say anything specific at all?Took you a while to come back with a generalization without any examples when asked for specifics.