XNA interview
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jvd said:
Sony is still the leader. Current generation mindshare and fanbase carries over to the next, an advantage for Sony.
IBM is helping Sony to create tools for game development, and Sony themselves have stated that they will offer appropiate tools this time around, unlike PS2 (yes, this was stated).
Also, when taking into account XNA, do you really believe IBM is involved that much in the software side of Xbox 2?
I happen to think that my ideas mesh much better with Sony´s than with MS´s. I don´t need, nor like, a replica of the PC industry, which is incidentally what MS wants.
right advantage . Doesn't make them a leader for the next generation though.
Yes they are and ati is helping microsoft with the tools for xna . Not to mention that ms has years of making tools for direct x and other t hings on the pc .
I'm sure they have had as much input in it as with the cell chip. Mabye slightly less as ms has alot more experiance than sony in this area .
My ideas fit much better with nintendos .
Game inovation.
Sony and ms can go screw themselves for all I care. They both want to have a monoply and if they can get a monoply they will sell take advantage of it .
Even when nintendo had the market to themselves they still released tripple a games .
As to tuttle.
Personal insults thrown at anyone on these forums is a banable offense .
I became a mod because i was willing to do it.
The quality of the forums as of late shows you how much time sonic and myself have put into cleaning up the noise to quality amount . If you don't feel that way and need to bash what people say and insult them then please find another forum . That kind of attitude is not wanted here
jvd said:
They have an edge, which will materialize in higher sales. It´s only natural, people loved PS2 and PS3 will most likely offer them more of what they loved.
Instead of your typical "my company´s dick is just as big as your company´s dick" attitude, what about an actual opinon about XNA from you? I think it´s terrible, MS is trying to convert the entire console market into a wannabe PC market.
Sure, they´ve developed the entire architecture and tools in MS´s machine as well.
Seriously, drop this attitude, it´s so annoying.Right, so why are you so interested in creating wild PS3 doomsday scenarios and defending MS so much and trying to constitute them as viable alternatives?:?
And ruled with an iron fist, saying what could go in games and what couldn´t. Sega and Sony later forced them to change to be much more open to change and a more mature market.
I don´t know about you, but I wouldn´t like to see Nintendo ruling the roost again.
Not to say that insults are ok, but what happened to avoid moderating threads you participate in? :?
it might. But it might not. We wont know till the systems are launched.
I try not to comment on things that I don't know.
I like some of what xna amounts too.
It should make deving for xbox 2 easier. It should also make it easier for games on the xbox2 to be ported to the pc (free to make games on ) and n5/ ps3 and vice versa if devs use xna . IT will at least insure quality through out all 3 partys . I don't know about u but i'm tired of half as ports.
of course they did .
Last i check ms is using an ibm chip. Last i check ms has almost no experiance with that type of chip in terms of os and development.
I would execpt that ibm is not playing favorites with regards to 2 extremly powerfull players .
I figured if someone wanted a pro sony post there is about 90% of the posters here that can provied that. I posted from a diffrent view point .
I don't want ms to be the leader. I don't want sony to be a leader. I would like a even split across the 3 or as close as we can get ti .
Right and it kept a certian standard .
There are some things nintendo did that i don't agree on. But at least we didn't have some of the filth that we have now a days on these systems.
So might claim its simply adult entertainment. But kids still get a hold of it .
I have not modded one thing in this thread. I didn't even fix the bad quoting by everyone .
all i told him was he better not insult me as he wouldn't last long on this forum as it is breaking the rules .
What do u think i modded ?
Well ibm didn't make anything for cell. They made bluegene. and sony like that took it and made it into cell with some enhancements.
I don't work for ibm so i can't say how involved they were in either. But I can tell you its alot more involved than them going to ms. Here is the chips , have a good day .
I have an attitude ?
I'm sorry from now on i will say "Cell is the best , nothing can beat cell !!! Ps3 will sell 200 million units in its life and will have a 15 year life !!!. Sony is the best. I have never bought a bad product from them !!! Sony has never had anything fail !!!
Would u like that from me instead of listing possible reasons for why sony might fail ?
I don't think fab problems , power / heat problems , poor performance , lack of quality software or any of the reasons i listed are far fetched dreams of mine. They can all happen and they are just as likely to happen as the reverse. That goes for all companys .
Well. I have said this over and over again about 15 times. That i want a balanced market. Sony right now is as close to a monopoly as you can get .
Do i want them to succes and be a monoply ? No i don't . IS that wrong ? No it is not.
If anything your daily posts show that you want sony to become a monoply .
As i asked do you think sony is in this busniess to give away free ice cream ?
Because if they manage to drive nintendo and ms from this market they will keep puting out the same hardware and trying to update it only when they are forced to by others trying to get into the market.
If you do not like my posts you can stop reading them. I wont stop posting because I have a right to and my posts are valid .
Right and name me a nes game that you could have sex with a hooker in a stolen car after killing tons of cops ?
Perhaps thats how it came across but i did not mean it to come across that way. I mearly told him that if he resorted to personal attacks he would not last very long . Those are the rules . No personal attacks .
I did not mod his post and that is using my mod powers . I also can not ban. So any threat of ban from me with out dave's approvel is not valid and i would never make such a claim unless it was backed up.
Yeah, everyone knows Atari was the golden age!
jvd said:
There are next to no members on this board that actually post in the style you just illustrated above. None. There are however people on this board in the firm belief, by of course extracting facts and making logical assumptions and while using common sense, that some of the above yields a good possibility. No one has ever commented on how many PS3 will sell, that Sony is the best and that it will have a 15 year life cycle (exagerated or not).
What do we want and expect from a member of these boards? (Applies to mods too btw)
Objectivity. Applied common-sense. Logical assumptions with basis in reality.
Opinions, backed up by one of the above. Nothing more, nothing less.
The way you are posting away, jvd, at times feels like a reincarnation of banned Deadmeat. Why? You continuesly bring up the same flawed arguments over and over again. If it's not some argument about the faults of PS2, it's a post based around "IFs" here and "IFs" there. What happened? No one can argue with "IFs" - If the world came to an end, Microsoft would fail too. IF-arguments hold no weight and surely can't be the basis of a good, objective argument. I understand that there are doubts, but these, if valid, should be able to be backed up with some facts - not madeup IF-scenario's which are unlikely, unpredictable and therefore serve no purpouse in a debate. Only when the IF-scenario holds some truth or can be backed up by facts to be a serious possibility does it become interesting to a debate. Not before, not after.
In short, we don't want people like you that just feel the need to post an opposite view with no grounds. Post them if you can back them up - but posting groundless IFs are tiresome and an embarrasment to beyond3d as a whole. Criticize while staying objective, not ignorant.
If you put some effort in reading 'our' views - you might even notice that none of us is proclaiming Sony to be anything. We have our reasons why we might see certain things turning out and present these views with facts that support our arguments. You might not agree with said views, but then at least make some effort to reply using the same degree of objectivity and facts to present your argument. If you can't, please - for the good of beyond3d - let it be.
Get off JVD's case. He's expressing an opinion just like every other bloddy person in this forum, there's nothing wrong with that at all. If people like you or tuttle have a problem with him, then simply stop posting here, or this thread, or whatever...
Tuttle more specifically didn't have any reason to try and antagonize JVD over his posts. BTW, JVD DID mention that he has talked to people that worked with the early PS2 devkit's and btw, the early PS2 development tools were compltely horrible. That's no joke. I'm working with a few guys that receieved some of the first devkits in north america (namco and rockstar) and they told me the exact same thing.
Tuttle more specifically didn't have any reason to try and antagonize JVD over his posts. BTW, JVD DID mention that he has talked to people that worked with the early PS2 devkit's and btw, the early PS2 development tools were compltely horrible. That's no joke. I'm working with a few guys that receieved some of the first devkits in north america (namco and rockstar) and they told me the exact same thing.
Havent read many of the posts, but i think many people around here mistake JVD and other people's *cough*mine*cough* sarcasm for something else. Granted, at times he's a bit over the top, just like many others are, but his arguments are acceptable most of the time.
Just how can an XNA thread turn into a "i hate u" thread is beyond me. Jvd should at least try to calm people down. That's what a mod is for afterall... Hitting them with sarcasm is not gonna help...
Still i also think some people around here take some stuff way too seriously.
Just how can an XNA thread turn into a "i hate u" thread is beyond me. Jvd should at least try to calm people down. That's what a mod is for afterall... Hitting them with sarcasm is not gonna help...
Still i also think some people around here take some stuff way too seriously.
If Redmond gets nuked, Sony forgets to put chips in the PS3, and all the programmers at Nintendo join a cult and drink poisoned Kool-Aid, then the N-Gage has a real shot at being a serious gaming device!
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