Xenos not from TSMC?
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Megadrive1988
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while It is *possible* that IBM will be fabbing Xenos GPUs for Xbox 360, (since IBM has fabbed GPUs for Nvidia and maybe other companies) my guess is, it's a mistake by the author(s) of that article.
IBM will certainly manufacture the triple-core CPU that goes by the name XENON and Waternoose.
the graphics chip manufacturing is most likely STILL being done at TSMC and NEC.
IBM will certainly manufacture the triple-core CPU that goes by the name XENON and Waternoose.
the graphics chip manufacturing is most likely STILL being done at TSMC and NEC.
The GameMaster
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The article is incorrect... Both GPUs that XENOS consists of is manufactured by TMSC, fabricated separately and then packaged together. XENON, on the otherhand, is very likely to be manufactured by IBM... so it is possible The Inquirer misinterpreted the information.
At least this would be the first time I have heard of this if that is the case... /shrug
At least this would be the first time I have heard of this if that is the case... /shrug
The GameMaster
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xbdestroya said:
Techinically it *IS* two GPUs as both has logic... but it is probably more accurate to refer to it as a "Split Processor" design. The "Parent" GPU module mostly handles the shader operations and the "Daughter" GPU module is the one that contains the eDRAM and additional logic for a number of other functions. Both sits in a single package though they are fabricated separately and both is... as far as my information goes... manufactured by TMSC and not IBM. In doing this there are certain benefits for yield as well as heat and power issues, though one could wonder if there would be any performance difference if both cores was part of one core instead of two. This is not necessarly the same as SLI GPUs or multicore GPUs that are identical... but it is technically two GPU cores. More an issue of sematics than anything else... but we are both correct in our own context.
ANYWAY...
Generally the TriCore XBox360 CPU is known as "XENON" and the Dual Module GPU is known as "XENOS"... at least these are the PR friendly names that seemed to have developed. The working name for XENOS was C1 and the working name for XENON was "Waternoose".
Thanks for clearing it up, I was under the impression that Xenon is a codename for the Xbox 360 system as suggested in the leakerd diagram, rather than for the CPU. It seems some sites such as Ars Technica actually claim Xenon refers to the CPU name as far as I can get from Google, so it may be a trend now.The GameMaster said:
The GameMaster
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As an additional note... don't place too much credence into what ArsTechnica said about XENON as there is NOONE that has ANY information on XENON at the moment. I normally trust them... but not in this case as I have not been able to cooberate their information. Regardless I await the day that complete and accurate information is released about XENON and what exactly is so different about it from the PPC G5s that was in the Alpha DevKits. This is a subject that will need to be revisited when that does happen...
[source: http://forum.teamxbox.com/showthread.php?t=359193&page=2 ]Malawar said:
don't know who Malawar is?
He was supposedly involved in the design of Xenos 8) (AFAIK, it's unknown what he is currently doing, though)
Why does the Inq always use 'marchitecture' instead of 'architecture'? Is it really as simple as them being very poor at spelling and grammar (apparent in many articles!)?
Which means what? Are nVidia in the role of designing open-air market squares for cities nowadays? I guess Inq think they're 8) . Do they use $ signs when talking and Microsoft too? 
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